Something strange I thought of about our trade for Armanti

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Even if AE does turn out to be a good player, you could have easily waited until the 4th round or later to get him. Trading the 33rd pick for an 89th overall pick is mildly retarded and I only say mildly to be nice.

[dxpanther]

Even if AE does turn out to be a good player, you could have easily waited until the 4th round or later to get him. Trading the 33rd pick for an 89th overall pick is mildly retarded and I only say mildly to be nice.

I'm as much of an app homer as they come and i completely agree with this.

[YourMomsLover]

Clausen has showed us he's a bust...

Edwards...not so much. IMO

[YourMomsLover]

Even if AE does turn out to be a good player, you could have easily waited until the 4th round or later to get him. Trading the 33rd pick for an 89th overall pick is mildly retarded and I only say mildly to be nice.

App Homer as well, and I agree with RnR rite cheer.

[g5jamz]

Too late for Dwill...his contract is up. If I were him, I'd tell the Panthers to pay up or I'm testing the market. Guess who's going to be hurt the worst now. You had the opportunity to resign him beginning of the year. You had the opportunity to trade him to a Packers or a team with multiple 1sts. No...you just drag your a$$ and now we're sitting her with our thumbs up our butts with no leverage. More than likely...he'll be gone. If not...he'll get paid. I've suggested it, but I'd be looking to trade out Jonathan Stewart. Hopefully get a 1st for him...but we all know that's not happening so get a 2nd...heck...I don't see that happening. Maybe a 3rd? Resign Dwill. Dwill--Goodson---Sutten. And if you WANT to get daring...trade one of the 3rds we'd have...and NEXT year's 1st to a team to get in mid-1st to hopefully get a stud DT or WR. LOT coming out. I haven't even begun to look at mocks to see where guys may fall. If you can one of these stud WRs in the 2nd...make a move, but good lord don't trade out of the 1st or 2nd for 2012.

[The Saltman]

so the assumption of him being a bust comes from practice? funny because that's not what ive heard about him from practices.

so uve heard he is Vick 2.0 and he is the second coming of Steve Smith? damn then the coaches are stupid!!

[Guild]

so uve heard he is Vick 2.0 and he is the second coming of Steve Smith? damn then the coaches are stupid!!

Come now Saltman I don't think he went that far with what he said. Edwards may well be starting to get better in practice. When was the last time you went and watched?

[The Saltman]

Come now Saltman I don't think he went that far with what he said. Edwards may well be starting to get better in practice. When was the last time you went and watched?

true Ive never been but I just assume if the coaches thought he was worth being put on the field he would be on the field playing. I dont disagree with putting him on the field I just think that if he was showing some promise he would be out there a lot more than he has.

[fjblair]

Armanti should have been drafted by the Patriots anyway.

[Icege]

It is strange that a dude that rots on the pine for the worst team in the NFL and potentially NFL history was technically less than two picks away from being a first round pick.

Overreacting fan is overreacting.

We're nowhere near the '76 Buccs nor the '08 Lions. We got our 1 W.

[dxpanther]

true Ive never been but I just assume if the coaches thought he was worth being put on the field he would be on the field playing. I dont disagree with putting him on the field I just think that if he was showing some promise he would be out there a lot more than he has.

personally i think our coaching staff has no clue how to fit a square peg into a round hole. our offensive scheme is not exactly versatile.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I just looked back on that draft and noticed that the pick NE traded us wasn't even originally their pick. How did they get it?

They traded a 3rd rounder in 2009 (89th overall) to the Titans for their 2010 2nd rounder, which ended up being 47th overall. They then traded that #47 to the Cardinals for their 2nd (#58) and 3rd (#89). They then traded down again with Houston for their 2nd (#62) and 5th (#150). Then traded that #89 to the Panthers for a future 2nd, which looks to be #33 overall.

So from a single late 3rd round pick in 2009 the Patriots parlay that into a 2nd in 2010 (62nd overall, Brandon Spikes), 2010 5th rounder (150th overall, Zoltan Mesko) and a 2nd in 2011 (33rd-36th overall). And they'll probably trade down with that 2nd next year and net even more picks.

Does anyone look at this and still want to defend our own FOs moves that basically do the opposite. Oh but wait, let me throw in the meaningless cliche "we're in win now mode" phrase. Then it makes sense to throw away future picks like they're worthless. Unlike the Patriots I guess, they aren't in win now mode apparently as they have no problem trading away current picks each year to stockpile for the future. Must suck to be them.

[Guild]

The Patriots administration is the best in the league. Expecting us to measure up to it is probably a bit much. Could we do better though? Probably.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I don't expect us to start pulling off all those kind of moves overnight or anything but when we're doing the exact opposite then there's a problem.