Giving up on John Fox

[Kurb]

That wasn't last year boys.

We were 8-8 last year.

It is what it is.

Or do you mean the AZ humiliation followed by the 8-8 mediocrity?

Yes.

[Kurb]

If your goal is the Super Bowl.

What is the difference between 1-15 and 8-8.

Other than you get a shitty mid first rounder.

[Kevin Greene]

If your goal is the Super Bowl.

What is the difference between 1-15 and 8-8.

Other than you get a shitty mid first rounder.

Hope for at least 12 weeks of the season?

[KillerKat]

I thought it was bullsh** Fox acted like he was proud that he's never been below 7-9. That urked the hell out of me.

[Kurb]

Hope for at least 12 weeks of the season?

Hope.

Oscar Wilde

We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

[Kurb]

While never getting below 7-9 is an accomplishment, it's a lot like saying you are really good at checkers. It's great and all, but in reality you are saying "I'm not good at a lot of other things"

[unicar15]

Ready for him to go after 07. I think he is a good coach but has zero ability to plan for the future and thus we are now a 2 win team.

[frash.exe]

If you've done so, what was the tipping point?

um........

[Kevin Greene]

um........

Oh hell that's easy.

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/25115-what-a-waste-of-a-season-what-a-waste-of-a-roster.html

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/21166-14-rushes.html

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/46701-coaching-trees.html

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/41802-pass-vs-run-vs-wins.html

[frash.exe]

Oh hell that's easy.

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/25115-what-a-waste-of-a-season-what-a-waste-of-a-roster.html

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/21166-14-rushes.html

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/46701-coaching-trees.html

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/41802-pass-vs-run-vs-wins.html

lol

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/21161-this-team-is-crap.html#post2194590

[CatMan72]

I gave up on Fox after the 2009 season, Jake was struggling and Fox wasn't able to adapt.

[Dpantherman]

I gave up on Fox when didn't make an effort to replace Delhomme after everyone outside of Charlotte (and some in Charlotte) realized that he was hurting the team.

[Baschski]

Fox is a good coach. But it's time that he and this franchise parted ways. It was probably time after last season, or maybe even the season before.

Criticisms of his coaching style and philosophy are generally ignorant. I know everyone wants an exciting, risky, offensive-minded coach that runs up the score and runs the wildcat ten times a game and goes for 2 when we're already up by thirty. But conservative coaching doesn't mean bad coaching.

Also, the notion that a coach has to go 13-3 and go to the Conference championship every other year to be a good coach is ridiculous as well.

[Mother Grabber]

I gave up on him a few seasons ago when it became clear that he would never evolve, his teams would never evolve, he couldn't develop talent and he kept trying to force players to fit his system.