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Imagine you're the new OC


Cyberjag

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Jimmy Clausen is your Quarterback, period. Behind him is Tony Pike, who still weighs 150 lbs, and the best Management could do regarding a vet backup was Kyle Boller.

What do you do to fix his game? What kind of QB coach do you hire? What sort of things do you emphasize in practice?

Let's keep the "OMG I would kill myself!" comments to a minimum please.

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Cam sucks balls and won't be a Panther, guarantee it.

I try to implement quick passes, slants, flares, comebacks and screens. Hopefully the run game is productive and will open up the play action stuff downfield.

Think we'll stay play-action or go to a WCO?

Doesn't Bradford have a three second rule in St. Louis? Throw in three or throw it away?

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Jimmy Clausen is your Quarterback, period. Behind him is Tony Pike, who still weighs 150 lbs, and the best Management could do regarding a vet backup was Kyle Boller.

What do you do to fix his game? What kind of QB coach do you hire? What sort of things do you emphasize in practice?

Let's keep the "OMG I would kill myself!" comments to a minimum please.

One, get Otah healthy. We need that run game back, and we need better pass blocking. Two, Design an offense around what he does well (and yes, there are a few things). He is good on the short passes to the slot, so some type of modified West Coast style offense might work. He also sets up a screen pass pretty well, so that would become a big part of the arsenal. He is fairly accurate on the deep balls if he has time for that long windup. So I would send Gettis and Smith deep, and keep as many blockers in as possible on occasion.

Oh, and three, never ever read a football message board. :)

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I figure the OC will be named before the draft, so I would lobby for AJ Green so I could go into the season with Smith, Green, LaFell, and Gettis at WR, and at worst Stewart and Goodson behind a decent OL with Otah back. Then I sit down Jimmy and I tell him all the pieces are there to succeed and that Im going to give him every chance to prove he can start in this league.

I would try to get his confidence up. Beginning of the game, high percentage passes to get his confidence up instead of run run run run run run ok now go make a play like fox did.

Truth is, none of us really know how good Jimmy CAN be because Fox never let him pass much. A good offensive coaching staff could do him wonders.

If not, then I just bite the bullet and hope for Luck or Barkley in the next draft bc the pieces are all there on the offense.

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My main concern is his throwing motion. The day I am hired I retain the best individual throwing coach in the country to fly to Cali and spend every day with Jimmy an get him a quicker release and minimize sidearm throws. He is young enough to correct this, unlike when they did it with Jake.

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My main concern is his throwing motion. The day I am hired I retain the best individual throwing coach in the country to fly to Cali and spend every day with Jimmy an get him a quicker release and minimize sidearm throws. He is young enough to correct this, unlike when they did it with Jake.

No more mechanics coaches, right?

First thing I would do is hire a QB coach who gets him to trust his instinct a little more and quit being so tentative back there. Yes, it means INTs but he has those already. It also means he's a little less predictable, which certainly can't hurt. Get him comfortable back there, that's the main thing.

Release work is good and necessary, he throws it at different points already, and just needs to cut the low ones out. But I wouldn't make that the main focus at first. I think Scherer got into his head and had him thinking as much about shoulder and hip positioning as what was going on during the play, which made him look slow and tentative.

In the offensive playbook, I would probably borrow a page from St. Louis early in the season, and especially early in games. Keep it short and quick, that will do nothing but good things early on. If we have a healthy line of Gross, Wharton, Kalil, Schwartz and Otah, then we can easily put in a strong running game to make things easy on him.

I think if we get the right coaching staff, he could have a bright future.

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To the many that are just interested in derailing this thread you have to be aware that this is a realistic possibility so at least entertain some thoughts about it.

First things first, you have to become his confidant. If the FO are sold on Clausen, then Clausen needs someone he can go to at all times, picking away at their knowledge. If he doesn't do that naturally, then our Oc needs to instil that in him.

Secondly I would leave a lot of his mechanics alone, as I personally think a lot of his 'slowness' is mental and due to a lack of confidence in his decision making. So in contrast you need to get him to trust his instincts more and start throwing to the receivers that do have that window. Once he has trust in himself and his receivers more then you can start opening up the playbook.

With regards to scheme we really have to look at what he does well and build on that. Forget fitting the QB to a scheme, fit the scheme to the QB. To often under Fox we tried to fit square pegs into round holes due to his rigid philosophy. Clausen does not appear to have the elite talent, so we need to build the scheme from the ground up focusing on him. So that means a modified west coast, with lots of short passes and play action to free up our deep pass.

Essentially if we are sold on him and we only bring in people who are to 'contend' with him as starter, then we need to make the scheme all about him. Then there are no excuses...

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Jimmy Clausen won't be our QB because he can't/won't beat out Cam Newton in camp..

You're retarded if you think JR authorizes anyone in the FO to gamble 30+ million on Newton. Stolen laptop, grades, violations of NCAA rules. Even if 100% inaccurate, the questions being so numerous make him a gamble. WON'T HAPPEN.

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