Matt Maiocco has us taking Newton # 1 overall

[MadHatter]

Again it wasn't gimmicky at all. He ran and threw depending on what he was given. You people forget he had 1 year in the system. If he had been there 3 years he would have been able to do more and develop his passing game to a higher degree. As it was it took him several games just to learn the offense. That is why some folks like me are high on his potential. He grades out well against other quarterbacks who had 3 or 4 years to learn 1 system. Sure he ran the spread but he wasn't so ingrained in it that he couldn't learn the pro game in a year or two. He is a very quick learner and will be able to make the transistion. THink of him like Flacco or Roethlisburger. His running will help keep safeties in the box while he passes down the field. His passing will burn defenses selling out to load the box. And if he can be elusive in the pocket and hard to bring down, he will be able to give receivers the time to get deep much like Roethlisburger does.

My concerns with Cam are as follows:

1. He was in a one read passing offense. If his primary receiver was not open, he tucked and ran. He will NOT be successful in the NFL playing like that. It reminds me A LOT of Vick coming out.....and Vick struggled earlier in his career as a passer. Not until now has he figured out how to be a QB in the NFL.

2. The majority of the big plays for Newton WERE with his legs. If he tries that in the NFL, he will be injury-proned.

I have no idea whether Cam will eventually be a top tier QB....none of us do. However, his limitations and question marks almost certainly equate to a longer term project. He WILL take 3-4 years to develop. And, I am not sure that we are in a position (with the other needs) to use the #1 pick on a guy who is not going to be a difference maker for several seasons.

[DaCityKats]

Everyone is not doing it because it's a lot easier said than done.

teaching is a hard job,no ifs ands or buts about it.coaching is a form of teaching. guys are getting pulled from spread offense bc thats what colleges are running now.

[OchoNueve]

I might download some Auburn games and try to evaluate him as a QB. Right now I'm going to look at his throws and scrambling on youtube, and see what I think. I'm going to use a rating system from 1-4, 4 being excellent, 1 terrible. Of course youtube isn't enough to evaluate a QB, and I'm just a fan.

Size and build - 4: He's lean, muscular, tall, athletic, with big hands.

Arm strength and accuracy - 3.5. Reasons for rating:

40-50 yard Go routes - Recievers hit in stride, only slight adjustment needed if any.

20 yard Post routes - Recievers hit in stride, good velocity, loose trailing coverage on most plays. Can hit this route easy for TDs a lot if the coverage is trailing with no help, or fire it in there if the trailing DB is on the recievers back.

10-15 Deep In routes - Reicievers hit in stride, no adjustment needed, good velocity and touch, tight coverage. This guy can throw one hell of a deep in.

20-25 yard Flag routes - Good touch on the ball, average velocity, usually throwing off back foot due to pressure. Needs to step into this throw even with pressure in his face.

10-15 yard Deep Out routes - Lethal velocity and accuarcy into tight coverage. This guy can throw one hell of a Deep Out, and a Deep In. Excellent.

Can hit RBs coming out of the backfield all day with ease, just like our fan favorite Pickles.

Scrambling abiltiy - 4.

Throwing Motion - 2.5: On a lot of plays, Cam isn't using his legs to generate power/torque to throw the ball. He's using his powerful arm and wrist, but his footwork and lower body out of wack. He'll throw the ball with some, or most of his weight, on his back foot. He needs to have about 90% of his weight on his back foot before his throwing motion, and during the throwing motion he needs to trasnfer about 90% of his weight to his front foot. I've seen a lot of plays where he doesn't do that, and especially when facing pressure.

Locating Recievers - Unknown: You can't grade a who reads half the field, and looks to run if nothing is there. He's looking at 1 or 2 recievers and then bolting. The reason that works in college is because most recievers are open all the time. Busted coverage, and terrible DBs can make and average QB look like Joe Montana.

Cam will need to fix his throwing motion, and learn read an NFL defense, make all his checks quickly, and be willing to take a hit to deliver the ball. Who knows how long it would take before he was NFL ready, or if he'll ever be a good NFL QB. He has all the physical tools.

Maybe the reason in your scouting report Cam Newton hits every single receiver "in stride" with good "velocity" is because you were watching his youtube highlights. Kiper and McShay better watch their back...

[MHS831]

My concerns with Cam are as follows:

1. He was in a one read passing offense. If his primary receiver was not open, he tucked and ran. He will NOT be successful in the NFL playing like that. It reminds me A LOT of Vick coming out.....and Vick struggled earlier in his career as a passer. Not until now has he figured out how to be a QB in the NFL.

2. The majority of the big plays for Newton WERE with his legs. If he tries that in the NFL, he will be injury-proned.

I have no idea whether Cam will eventually be a top tier QB....none of us do. However, his limitations and question marks almost certainly equate to a longer term project. He WILL take 3-4 years to develop. And, I am not sure that we are in a position (with the other needs) to use the #1 pick on a guy who is not going to be a difference maker for several seasons.

Yep.

Reasons to forget Cam Newton was ever born:

1. He will take 3 years to develop.

2. His father will be involved in contract negotiations--you will have little idea how good he can be until his second contract--Do you really want to gamble with the QB position by paying him $20 million guaranteed for the first contract to ride the pine and then $50 million guaranteed on the second contract to find out that he is a bust?

3. His work ethic and intelligence have been questioned. Has gotten by on his remarkable athletic ability. Do you want a QB who is not smart and fails to put in the time to be great?

4. What worked for him in college will not work for him in the pros. He ran one of the simplest offenses in college football.

5. He will workout well. His father knows this, which is why he decided to conduct his own personal combine. Will the passing drills involve reading defenses? Will he be taking snaps from the center, turning his back on the coverage for play action?

6. If Newton stays in the NFL for 6 years, it will be as a tight end.

[DaCityKats]

Yep.

Reasons to forget Cam Newton was ever born:

1. He will take 3 years to develop.

2. His father will be involved in contract negotiations--you will have little idea how good he can be until his second contract--Do you really want to gamble with the QB position by paying him $20 million guaranteed for the first contract to ride the pine and then $50 million guaranteed on the second contract to find out that he is a bust?

3. His work ethic and intelligence have been questioned. Has gotten by on his remarkable athletic ability. Do you want a QB who is not smart and fails to put in the time to be great?

4. What worked for him in college will not work for him in the pros. He ran one of the simplest offenses in college football.

5. He will workout well. His father knows this, which is why he decided to conduct his own personal combine. Will the passing drills involve reading defenses? Will he be taking snaps from the center, turning his back on the coverage for play action?

6. If Newton stays in the NFL for 6 years, it will be as a tight end.

fail.

1. It takes any draft pick 3 years to develop into the player he is going to be.

2. Why in the hell do people think his father will have anything to do with his contract.if he is not his agent, i seriously doubt he would be in the same room when he signs on the line.

3. How can you question a mans work ethic after going to a jc and winning and than coming back to the sec and winning the starting spot there. you dont have to be a rocket scientist to play the qb position.

4. How can you fault him for the system he was in? thats not fair, and with the right coaching he could excel in the league doing both.

5. He will workout well, but the tape explains the real reason why this guy has so much potential.

6. that is just retarded.

[DaCityKats]

The panther fans might be the most ignorant bunch i have ever seen. Wine, cheese and ingnorance dont mix.

[teeray]

The panther fans might be the most ignorant bunch i have ever seen. Wine, cheese and ingnorance dont mix.

I love the fact you misspelled ignorance when you are calling people ignorant.

[CatMan72]

My concerns with Cam are as follows:

1. He was in a one read passing offense. If his primary receiver was not open, he tucked and ran. He will NOT be successful in the NFL playing like that. It reminds me A LOT of Vick coming out.....and Vick struggled earlier in his career as a passer. Not until now has he figured out how to be a QB in the NFL.

2. The majority of the big plays for Newton WERE with his legs. If he tries that in the NFL, he will be injury-proned.

I have no idea whether Cam will eventually be a top tier QB....none of us do. However, his limitations and question marks almost certainly equate to a longer term project. He WILL take 3-4 years to develop. And, I am not sure that we are in a position (with the other needs) to use the #1 pick on a guy who is not going to be a difference maker for several seasons.

Legitimate concerns.

[panthers55]

My concerns with Cam are as follows:

1. He was in a one read passing offense. If his primary receiver was not open, he tucked and ran. He will NOT be successful in the NFL playing like that. It reminds me A LOT of Vick coming out.....and Vick struggled earlier in his career as a passer. Not until now has he figured out how to be a QB in the NFL.

2. The majority of the big plays for Newton WERE with his legs. If he tries that in the NFL, he will be injury-proned.

I have no idea whether Cam will eventually be a top tier QB....none of us do. However, his limitations and question marks almost certainly equate to a longer term project. He WILL take 3-4 years to develop. And, I am not sure that we are in a position (with the other needs) to use the #1 pick on a guy who is not going to be a difference maker for several seasons.

1. Vick admits being unmotivated in Atlanta and said he received little to no coaching. After I see what happened in Philly, I tend to believe him.

2. He threw 26 TDs versus 20 rushing TDs so that is not backed up by watching him or the stats. His running made teams respect it to the point that it really opened the passing game.

3.He learned Auburn's offense in a few months so that in his first year he won a national championship. There is no reason to believe he will need 3 or 4 years. Frankly with his size, elusiveness, and running ability, he will make an impact in his first year if he sees the field. He won't take longer than Clausen to learn this offense and has much better physical skills.

The reason we may not take him is the off the field issues, not his performance on the field.

If he ends up like Vince Young without the headcase issues, he will make the probowl his rookie year like Young did.

[grateflday]

I am not saying the Panthers should pick Newton #1, I have no idea BUT the arguement against it that he will take 3yrs to develop as a reason not to is absurd. After all the evaluation, etc if Cam is the guy then you pick him - otherwise they better be high on Clausen or else the franchise will be looking at ALOT longer than 3 years to get themselves a QB. It will be more like 6+ while they end up having to draft a QB next year or after or overspend for via trade for another team's QB, which is most cases not be a sure thing like bringing in Colb.

People keep saying no based on taking time to develop well its already been longer than that since this franchise developed any QB and it could be a lot longer if they dont get it right this or next offseason.

[panthers55]

I am not saying the Panthers should pick Newton #1, I have no idea BUT the arguement against it that he will take 3yrs to develop as a reason not to is absurd. After all the evaluation, etc if Cam is the guy then you pick him - otherwise they better be high on Clausen or else the franchise will be looking at ALOT longer than 3 years to get themselves a QB. It will be more like 6+ while they end up having to draft a QB next year or after or overspend for via trade for another team's QB, which is most cases not be a sure thing like bringing in Colb.

People keep saying no based on taking time to develop well its already been longer than that since this franchise developed any QB and it could be a lot longer if they dont get it right this or next offseason.

Agree that the project argument is pretty lame. Especially those that want to pass this year and take a shot next year if Clausen struggles. That just makes things take a year or two longer to develop. Why would you not want two guys who could start at quarterback? When was the last time we made it through a season without our starter going down? Yeah that would 2008. Before that 2005.

Clausen will be here but honestly unless he hits the weight room he doesn't have the arm strength for this offense and his constant low ball throws are too easy to bat down. We need a QB with the physical talent to play this game who can then be developed into a top notch guy instead of trying to salvage a guy with limitations.

[DaCityKats]

I love the fact you misspelled ignorance when you are calling people ignorant.

im sorry for not being an english teacher.hang me maybe.

[Mvp2014]

If he really raises his stock and dominates the combine I could see that, I'd feel better with Newton than any of these other joker qb's

[SPANKY]

We have so many need's, it's gonna take more than one draft and dip in the FA market to get thing's going in the right direction. When you need QB, DT, oline, and secondary if we loose Marshall. But QB must be at the top of the list no matter how you find one, we need a playmaker at that position. After that we need a hoss DT badly.