Tender Kalil and Johnson?

[MHS831]

Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune makes a great point on Twitter. Rice may be a restricted free agent, given that he has only four years of service. Indeed, don’t be shocked if the Vikings apply a restricted free agency tender to any potential free agents with fewer than six years of service.

--PFT Florio 2/22

I am a bit confused about this. If this writer is accurate, then we could place first and third round and first round tenders on CJ and Kalil. Together, they would cost about $6.5 million for 2011 if not picked up. If one or both are picked up, we would receive draft picks--what year is the question.

Perhaps this is common knowledge, but I missed the memo. Can anyone with a little intel in this area enlighten a lost sheep?

[nosuchthingasapanther]

If one or both are picked up, we would receive draft picks--what year is the question.

this is the problem.

a tender tells everyone that these guys are up for grabs...but they aren't.

carolina needs both.

i believe one of them will get tendered, but that person will be the one carolina thinks they can afford to lose.

[CatMan72]

I guess a tender would be a way to ensure we got some compensation in return for the guys we didn't tag.

[Jackofalltrades]

High enough tenders says they're not up for grabs, especially with the CBA not being resolved.

[PantherBrew]

Id take a 1st and a 3rd for Johnson.

well id take that for pretty much any player on the roster.

[panthers55]

At this point the idea of restricted free agency isn't in play only placing the franchise tag on players. I doubt the RFA tag will hold up given it was 4 years up until 2010 when it went to 6 years as a deterrent for not having a CBA. It is unclear at this point where the NFL stands on putting tenders on players.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

High enough tenders says they're not up for grabs, especially with the CBA not being resolved.

a high enough tender for a player who isn't worth it says they aren't up for grabs.

tender williams for a first and third, and he isn't going anywhere.

tender kalil and johnson with the same, and you run the risk of losing them.

[The Saltman]

johnson isnt worth the first and third tender either. nobody in their right minds would give that up for him.

[MHS831]

I am sure other teams are saying this too, but not having a CBA / free agency period before the draft is going to suck!!

[Jackofalltrades]

Hypothetically speaking, if we did lose CJ for a 1st and 3rd I wouldn't be broken hearted given the strength of the DL in the draft. Bowers 1st, and three 3rd rd picks. Or, there's another DE I like more than Bowers though his name escapes me at the moment.

[MHS831]

If we are allowed to tender 4 year veterans, I would tender both Kalil and Johnson and tag Williams to trade him (better than letting him walk). Reason? You don't have to pay nearly $11 million for a center or $12 million for a DE with 1 good year under his belt (although I believe, at 24, CJ is the real deal). You would also have the chance to get something for DW. I don't think anyone would give us a first round pick for CJ or RK.

[The Saltman]

remember also that once the CBA is agreed to there is nothing stopping the panthers from signing the franchise player to a new long term contract

[MHS831]

Hypothetically speaking, if we did lose CJ for a 1st and 3rd I wouldn't be broken hearted given the strength of the DL in the draft. Bowers 1st, and three 3rd rd picks. Or, there's another DE I like more than Bowers though his name escapes me at the moment.

Are you thinking of Quinn? The only downside is if the picks are given to us in 2012 because the draft could fall before free agency.

[OchoNueve]

Id take a 1st and a 3rd for Johnson.

well id take that for pretty much any player on the roster.

I'd rather stick with Johnson personally. The reason you hoard draft picks is to find guys like Johnson and stick with them.