Off Season Thread

[PantherChris]

46 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Let's not forget that Blake, Morrow, Nikishin and Stankoven are RFA after next season. 

 

So probably going to keep 8-10m free, giving 18m to spend. 

You aren't taking into account that the cap is expected to increase 8 or 9 million or so for the 2026-2027 season.

Also NHL cap space doesnt roll over so there is no "saving" cap even if the cap wasn't increasing (which it is) you could still sign players with that money for one year deals  

 

So stop spewing BS cap metrics that you are almost never correct about.

Edited May 29 by PantherChris

[carpanfan96]

2 hours ago, PantherChris said:

You aren't taking into account that the cap is expected to increase 8 or 9 million or so for the 2026-2027 season.

Also NHL cap space doesnt roll over so there is no "saving" cap even if the cap wasn't increasing (which it is) you could still sign players with that money for one year deals  

 

So stop spewing BS cap metrics that you are almost never correct about.

Nothing to do with roll over or any other thing you posted. Fact is Canes will want to sign three of those four. Any big time AAV contracts are going to hurt that 2026 roster which is at 60m spent on 14 players right now. 

 

That's all I meant by it. Nothing more, nothing less. 

[PantherChris]

28 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Nothing to do with roll over or any other thing you posted. Fact is Canes will want to sign three of those four. Any big time AAV contracts are going to hurt that 2026 roster which is at 60m spent on 14 players right now. 

 

That's all I meant by it. Nothing more, nothing less. 

Its literally an irrelevant point is my point.... you dont have to "save" anything for it because NHL contracts all have an equal yearly breakdown, spending to the cap this offseason even with longer contracts would STILL mean 8.5 to 9.5m in cap space next season not to mention its all of these guys first year of RFA. I'm not really sure what point you trying to make as ive shown that even if you spend the full 30m you still have the buffer you described.

Edited May 29 by PantherChris

[carpanfan96]

Little worried about Jarvy Shoulder and that torn cuff, it's needed surgery for 2 years now and he's gonna play with it injured again next season. 

 

I like the toughness but would definitely prefer it to be fixed. He's an intritical player on the team going forward. 

 

Also I was high on pain pills last time I wrote about saving cap space but I didn't go into detail cause I wouldn't have been able to do so. "still on a ton of pain medication but not as nearly as many, think I'm down to 23 pills a day from 32 a few days ago, 18 of them are for pain management in some form or another."  

 

But I digress let's get to the point I was trying to make in my last post about saving, I'll now use Jarvis as an example. 

 

Let's say the canes spend 23m of the 28m in space they have available. Then have Jarvis get surgery and put him on LTIR at the start of the regular season. 

You let the cap space sit til the trade deadline. At the deadline that cap space would have accural on it and the team can use that space and spend 24m on incoming salary for the rest of the season. Let's say they bring in 5 players and send out two. "player A has an 8m AAV contract" he'd cost Carolina 4m the rest of the season. Player B makes 10 "cost of 5. So forth and so forth. 

Using that accural system and the Jarvis LTIR, the Canes could then go into the playoffs with a healthy Jarvis and be 19m over the cap legally for a cup run. The more cap space available at the start of the season, the larger the accural would be at the trade deadline. 

 

That was the first part of what I was going to try and articulate the other day but I'm on 35mg of oxy every 6 hours plus ketorolac and two other pain pills and another for kidney spasms. 

 

Have a wonderful night everyone 

[PantherChris]

6 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Little worried about Jarvy Shoulder and that torn cuff, it's needed surgery for 2 years now and he's gonna play with it injured again next season. 

 

I like the toughness but would definitely prefer it to be fixed. He's an intritical player on the team going forward. 

 

Also I was high on pain pills last time I wrote about saving cap space but I didn't go into detail cause I wouldn't have been able to do so. "still on a ton of pain medication but not as nearly as many, think I'm down to 23 pills a day from 32 a few days ago, 18 of them are for pain management in some form or another."  

 

But I digress let's get to the point I was trying to make in my last post about saving, I'll now use Jarvis as an example. 

 

Let's say the canes spend 23m of the 28m in space they have available. Then have Jarvis get surgery and put him on LTIR at the start of the regular season. 

You let the cap space sit til the trade deadline. At the deadline that cap space would have accural on it and the team can use that space and spend 24m on incoming salary for the rest of the season. Let's say they bring in 5 players and send out two. "player A has an 8m AAV contract" he'd cost Carolina 4m the rest of the season. Player B makes 10 "cost of 5. So forth and so forth. 

Using that accural system and the Jarvis LTIR, the Canes could then go into the playoffs with a healthy Jarvis and be 19m over the cap legally for a cup run. The more cap space available at the start of the season, the larger the accural would be at the trade deadline. 

 

That was the first part of what I was going to try and articulate the other day but I'm on 35mg of oxy every 6 hours plus ketorolac and two other pain pills and another for kidney spasms. 

 

Have a wonderful night everyone 

Now that makes much more sense....

Feel better dude! 

I suspect they will will be searching for trades early in the offseason though.

[carpanfan96]

Looks like Burns will be back on a 1 year deal at a lower salary. 

[Kuhndog94]

46 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Looks like Burns will be back on a 1 year deal at a lower salary. 

Where did you hear this? Or is this speculation?

I'd like Burns back. Maybe not paired with Slavin. 

[carpanfan96]

56 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Where did you hear this? Or is this speculation?

I'd like Burns back. Maybe not paired with Slavin. 

From someone that told me about the Walker and Ghosty signings last off-season. Burns would not be on first pair. Would be with Nikishin on 2nd pair, if Nikishin is able to learn the language enough to make the team. 

Also Canes will definitely offer Marner and the team has already talked to his agent. Expected offer/rate it will take to sign him will be 13AAVx7 years. 

Edited yesterday at 04:08 AM by carpanfan96

[PantherChris]

14 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

From someone that told me about the Walker and Ghosty signings last off-season. Burns would not be on first pair. Would be with Nikishin on 2nd pair, if Nikishin is able to learn the language enough to make the team. 

Also Canes will definitely offer Marner and the team has already talked to his agent. Expected offer/rate it will take to sign him will be 13AAVx7 years. 

Not sure if I like the Marner stuff but we will see either way.

 

 

[organicrusty1201]

9 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Not sure if I like the Marner stuff but we will see either way.

 

 

don't know what the fascination is with Marner, he seems like he wouldn't fit Rod's system 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Really hope Marner hates Raleigh.  I know we’re desperate for star power but I’d steer clear of this one.

[carpanfan96]

3 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Not sure if I like the Marner stuff but we will see either way.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, organicrusty1201 said:

don't know what the fascination is with Marner, he seems like he wouldn't fit Rod's system 

 

2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Really hope Marner hates Raleigh.  I know we’re desperate for star power but I’d steer clear of this one.

I think he fits, he's a two way player and had over or around 50 hits last season. Also I'm just going off what I heard. I can say he's definitely the top target FA wise, there are others via FA and trades that are also high on the list. They will go through the top players at every position and run the phones ragged trade wise.

[PNW_PantherMan]

11 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

 

 

I think he fits, he's a two way player and had over or around 50 hits last season. Also I'm just going off what I heard. I can say he's definitely the top target FA wise, there are others via FA and trades that are also high on the list. They will go through the top players at every position and run the phones ragged trade wise.

I don’t see an issue with fit in his playstyle.  I just don’t think he has it upstairs to win in the postseason.  Maybe I’m wrong and it’s just the Toronto stink.  But from what I’ve seen those 4 guys are more of the problem than not.  And he’s been a big part of that.  Zero game breaking ability in the postseason.

But if we sign him I’ll obviously hope for the best l.