Tonight's Game

[Mr. Scot]

43 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

You’re entitled to your opinion, brother, as am I.  I’m not starting a fan club for any players any time soon lol, but I like the guys I like and I pull for them.  Shadeur is one of those guys.  And obviously, I’m gonna pull for all of our players.

but, I think it would be a bit unfair to just dismiss what Shadeur is doing tonight.  From college to the pros as a rookie, everyone knows the speed is different, the game is faster, the athletes are better, etc., it’s a huge jump.  I wasn’t bringing up Bryce because of what you said about him, because I have no idea what your stance on him is.  I brought him up because we gave up a ton to get him and he has not lived up to the value, AT ALL.  Cam is what a #1 pick should be.  He made the players around him better, carried teams to wins, and made plays happen where there were none.  A superstar.  A game changer.  Even with all the upgrades we have made around Bryce, it’s my opinion he will never be that.  He will always manage games and occasionally make good plays, but he doesn’t change games on his own.  So my point in saying all of that is that Bryce was not worth what we gave up to get him, even if he turns out solid.  Meanwhile, a rookie in Shadeur is out here dotting up an NFL defense in his rookie preseason debut after receiving limited reps in practice and the entire NFL passing him over for 4+ rounds, as though there is no skill gap between the college and the pros.  It’s even arguable he has looked better than Bryce tonight.  That is impressive.  How bad our defense last year is irrelevant.  Some of that is injuries, schematics, etc.  it’s a new year, and even if we were fielding all UDFAs, that is still better than any defense he faced in college, talent-wise.  I continue to bring up the investment for Bryce and the investment in Shadeur, because one had a trove of riches traded away to acquire him and he has struggled for 1.5 years before he finally showed any redeemable ability as a pro.  Whereas Shadeur was treated as an afterthought, has had his own organization treat him like they didn’t ever want him, was given every reason to not look good, and he came out here and killed it - and again, the cost to get him was easy for any organization.

It's also a bit premature to crown him as a star.

I'm not convinced of anything yet.

[flagfootballcoach28]

3 hours ago, PantherChris said:

This is the NFL flag guy people aren't going to be open .5 seconds into the play

Go fug yourself. I can tell you’re a bitch irl

Edited August 9 by flagfootballcoach28

[PantherChris]

2 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

I'd probably disregard in evaluating overall performance past halftime. Depth remains an issue and so yeah, we'll be looking really bad once the starters go out. McMillan and Scourton looked good out there which is promising in terms of getting early returns from our draft class. Special teams... yikes. That has to be cleaned up. Finally, no major injuries that I know of.

I really hope the play calling was mainly for evaluating our pass game. It reeked of bad Canales when he completely forgets that we have an actual running game. Absolutely cannot be doing that during the season.

It's pre season and it seemed pretty obvious the goal tonight was to evaluate receivers and linemen in pass pro... in the pre season its not about balance or game situations.

And I kinda give him a pass for last year seeing as how often we trailed by double digits early.

[PantherChris]

5 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

Go fug yourself. I can tell you’re a bitch irl

Yawn its always internet coaches/badazzes that say sh*t like that I 100% gurentee you wouldn't say that to me IRL. And your the same guy who thinks the last pick of round 1 has to be a first year star on a bad team or hes a bust....

 

Go coach your kids flag football team and stfu, you sound like the drunk guy at the bar blames the QB for the defense giving up a 99 yard TD.

Get your eyes checked too lol. 

 

Awh now your pooping me I must have hurt your feeewlings

Edited August 9 by PantherChris

[ProcessBlue2]

Ejiro Evero is anti-Midas.

[ProcessBlue2]

Just now, PantherChris said:

Yawn its always internet coaches/badazzes that say sh*t like that I 100% gurentee you wouldn't say that to me IRL. And your the same guy who thinks the last pick of round 1 has to be a first year star on a bad team or hes a bust....

 

Go coach your kids flag football team and stfu, you sound like the drunk guy at the bar blames the QB for the defense giving up a 99 yard TD.

Get your eyes checked too lol. 

 

It’s always guys like this that think we are finishing 12-5 at Christmas when we are 3-11

[flagfootballcoach28]

3 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Yawn its always internet coaches/badazzes that say sh*t like that I 100% gurentee you wouldn't say that to me IRL. And your the same guy who thinks the last pick of round 1 has to be a first year star on a bad team or hes a bust....

 

Go coach your kids flag football team and stfu, you sound like the drunk guy at the bar blames the QB for the defense giving up a 99 yard TD.

Get your eyes checked too lol. 

 

Awh now your pooping me I must have hurt your feeewlings

Says the guy who talks in a condescending tone like a little bitch. I’d love to say it to your face pussy. I’d pay big bucks to meet up with your bitch ass 

 

 

Edited August 9 by flagfootballcoach28

[flagfootballcoach28]

4 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Yawn its always internet coaches/badazzes that say sh*t like that I 100% gurentee you wouldn't say that to me IRL. And your the same guy who thinks the last pick of round 1 has to be a first year star on a bad team or hes a bust....

 

Go coach your kids flag football team and stfu, you sound like the drunk guy at the bar blames the QB for the defense giving up a 99 yard TD.

Get your eyes checked too lol. 

 

Awh now your pooping me I must have hurt your feeewlings

Then tell me who was open in that play? I’ll wait 

[Smohn Jith]

23 minutes ago, CRA said:

89 never misses a chance to be a jerk.  It’s just DNA with him.   

especially when he's sharing it with someone who isn't his wi...

 

terrible start to the pre-season

[Mr. Scot]

38 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

In fairness there are probably only 5 or 6 QBs in NFL history that come close to Cam as an absolute game changer he was a generational athlete, I catch a lot of hate for it but Cam didn't come close to fulfilling his potential IMO Josh Allen is a poor man's Cam Newton had Cam been more a student of the game and worked out his mechanics he'd still he playing IMO. (Yes yes shoulder and all that but never did get his footwork functional) 

Also let's not pretend Sanders being a 5th rounder is all to do with his talent level dude would have been a MINIMAL 2nd rounder if teams weren't concerned about the Sanders family circus.

Newton's early coaching didn't do him any favors.

Rivera, Shula et al decided to adapt the offense to who he was in college rather than try and adapt him to being an NFL passer. They had some success but it wasn't the ideal approach.

Once Norv Turner arrived, he did what they should have been doing from the beginning and showed how good an NFL passer Newton could have been, but by then a lot of time had been wasted and wear and tear received.

I'd love to have seen what could have been accomplished if they'd handled him the right way from the beginning.

[t96]

Are we really anointing Deion’s kid now based on reps against our 2s??? Lol

[Mr. Scot]

34 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Heard? He played with him for 5 years lol

You wouldn't know it by that rambling commentary about him near the end.

Edited August 9 by Mr. Scot

[jb2288]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

Are we really anointing Deion’s kid now based on reps against our 2s??? Lol

he had a great game tonight, but my god the sports media is going to be insufferable for the next week

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

he had a great game tonight, but my god the sports media is going to be insufferable for the next week

I'm already doing the apology tour.