2025 Roster Cuts

[frankw]

The fact that anyone with a shred of self respect would log on here and try to crack jokes about the Texans QB room to attempt to dunk on folks here asking for basic competency in the QB room is off the charts cringe. 3 playoff wins between Stroud and Mills but yeah the Panthers are definitely putting forth as much effort at the most important position.

Edited 6 hours ago by frankw

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Why do we keep circling back to this being about a savior? Nobody is asking for a franchise QB. We aren't looking for "the" answer. We're looking for someone younger with any level of potential that will give this young offensive roster the chance to develop in what is in all likelihood not going to be a winning season in the event Bryce Young goes backwards again. Nobody in this offense is going to develop one iota with Andy Dalton Jack Plummer or Bryce Perkins. This is about what is best for our young roster. We cannot afford to continue squandering these seasons of potential development if we ever want to establish a new core and begin making a playoff push at any point before 2030.

If you want developmental, that's what the NFL Draft is for. Not dumpster diving for 6th string QB's that aren't worthy of much more than a PS look.

The time to "upgrade" in terms of backup QB(of which you will have a hard time doing so over Dalton) was free agency and it comes at a cost. Also, most of those guys are not rookies on cheap deals.

That's why I don't understand all the whining. The die is set at QB, quite frankly, it's been set since we drafted Bryce. 

Until we figure that situation out, this is what we have to deal with. Pining over hopeless scrubs ain't gonna change that fact.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

The fact that anyone with a shred of self respect would log on here and try to crack jokes about the Texans QB room to attempt to dunk on folks here asking for basic competency in the QB room is off the charts cringe. 3 playoff wins between Stroud and Mills but yeah the Panthers are definitely putting forth as much effort at the most important position.

I mean, no one in recent memory has put more effort towards QB than us. poo, look at the price we paid for Bryce, look at the revolving door at QB since Cam left.

What you are bitching about has nothing to do with effort, it has to do with results.

Well.....welcome to the party. Aren't we all pretty perturbed about that?

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I want this guy that the bears cut based on his name alone! 

If he comes here he'll have to change his name to Forrest Inferno.

[Icege]

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I saw the Jets cut TE Zach Kuntz.  I wanted to draft this guy.  A developmental player, but he could be a gem.

I'm curious to see what they do with the TE room. Tremble/Sanders seem like locks, but then who makes it between Evans/Mitchell? I went back and watched all of Evans' snaps from the preseason and he did not look good imo. I thought that he looked slow, didn't block as well as you'd hope a Notre Dame TE to, and didn't look like he was providing much to the passing game. James Mitchell looked better blocking (though Okwara did march him back vs. CLE) and catching.

[frankw]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

If you want developmental, that's what the NFL Draft is for. Not dumpster diving for 6th string QB's that aren't worthy of much more than a PS look.

The time to "upgrade" in terms of backup QB(of which you will have a hard time doing so over Dalton) was free agency and it comes at a cost. Also, most of those guys are not rookies on cheap deals.

That's why I don't understand all the whining. The die is set at QB, quite frankly, it's been set since we drafted Bryce. 

Until we figure that situation out, this is what we have to deal with. Pining over hopeless scrubs ain't gonna change that fact.

I completely reject this "aw shucks it sucks but what could we have done" narrative. Our FO could have not continued to treat our first overall pick like a delicate newborn and firmly explain to him that there will be new life in the QB room going forward for the good of the TEAM and it will make they and him better in the long run and drive him to step up his game. How is any of that a bad thing? Your fellow fans aren't the enemies here bub. The FO and ownership set this in motion and if you are tired of hearing about it you should talk to them. Nobody needs permission to discuss these issues.

[frankw]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, no one in recent memory has put more effort towards QB than us. poo, look at the price we paid for Bryce, look at the revolving door at QB since Cam left.

What you are bitching about has nothing to do with effort, it has to do with results.

Well.....welcome to the party. Aren't we all pretty perturbed about that?

Sad truth is Scott Fitterer put forth significantly more effort with this QB room. And he was a complete trashcan.

Edited 6 hours ago by frankw

[shaqattaq]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, no one in recent memory has put more effort towards QB than us. poo, look at the price we paid for Bryce, look at the revolving door at QB since Cam left.

What you are bitching about has nothing to do with effort, it has to do with results.

Well.....welcome to the party. Aren't we all pretty perturbed about that?

The fact that Darnold and Mayfield left us and played well for their next teams is just a kick in the balls for how our organization was being run.

[frankw]

Doesn't help the guy cheering you on in this is the same one that just goes around pooing posts in anger like an angst filled teenager.

Appreciate the convos kungfoodude.

[shaqattaq]

3 minutes ago, Icege said:

I'm curious to see what they do with the TE room. Tremble/Sanders seem like locks, but then who makes it between Evans/Mitchell? I went back and watched all of Evans' snaps from the preseason and he did not look good imo. I thought that he looked slow, didn't block as well as you'd hope a Notre Dame TE to, and didn't look like he was providing much to the passing game. James Mitchell looked better blocking (though Okwara did march him back vs. CLE) and catching.

I am of the opinion that we keep all 4. If not, Mitchell has outplayed Evans, IMO. Evans has a good chance of clearing waivers.

[Icege]

13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If you want developmental, that's what the NFL Draft is for. Not dumpster diving for 6th string QB's that aren't worthy of much more than a PS look.

The time to "upgrade" in terms of backup QB(of which you will have a hard time doing so over Dalton) was free agency and it comes at a cost. Also, most of those guys are not rookies on cheap deals.

That's why I don't understand all the whining. The die is set at QB, quite frankly, it's been set since we drafted Bryce. 

Until we figure that situation out, this is what we have to deal with. Pining over hopeless scrubs ain't gonna change that fact.

The only thing holding the Texans back from being true Super Bowl contenders is Davis Mills. If something happens to CJ, they're screwed.

If only both teams had the miracle man himself, Aidan O'Connell. Put your smart money on the Raiders folks! They've got a competitive QB room unlike the Texans and Panthers. 

But hey, maybe those Texans fans can get that QB3 they've needed to get them to the conference championship. That's all the Panthers need to get them to the postseason, apparently.

Edited 5 hours ago by Icege

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Icege said:

I'm curious to see what they do with the TE room. Tremble/Sanders seem like locks, but then who makes it between Evans/Mitchell? I went back and watched all of Evans' snaps from the preseason and he did not look good imo. I thought that he looked slow, didn't block as well as you'd hope a Notre Dame TE to, and didn't look like he was providing much to the passing game. James Mitchell looked better blocking (though Okwara did march him back vs. CLE) and catching.

If we did sign him, definitely TE3 starting out.  He missed almost his entire senior season due to injury. I think it was an ACL and that impacted his camp last year with the Jets.  Assuming no set backs with injury, he should be fully recovered.  Now he just needs opportunity.  The Jets are deep at TE, so getting waived is not a huge knock for me.

[Icege]

3 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

I am of the opinion that we keep all 4. If not, Mitchell has outplayed Evans, IMO. Evans has a good chance of clearing waivers.

I really hope we keep all 4 + 7 WRs. I like Blackshear, but Etienne has shown that he's more than capable as a returner and RB3. Idk if he's still PS eligible, but that'd be a dub if he could still be stashed.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, frankw said:

I completely reject this "aw shucks it sucks but what could we have done" narrative. Our FO could have not continued to treat our first overall pick like a delicate newborn and firmly explain to him that there will be new life in the QB room going forward for the good of the TEAM and it will make they and him better in the long run and drive him to step up his game. How is any of that a bad thing? Your fellow fans aren't the enemies here bub. The FO and ownership set this in motion and if you are tired of hearing about it you should talk to them. Nobody needs permission to discuss these issues.

I am not the one pitching a fit, frank. Again, I don't agree with this notion that Dalton is some washed up scrub. He is one of the better backup QB's in the NFL. Despite that....he isn't gonna walk in there and start rattling off wins. Jesus....what backup QB in the NFL right now is?? We. Stink. 

A competent backup exists to not immediately sink the ship if he has to play for a few games. Dalton is capable of that. Losing games slightly better or worse than Bryce. 

If you want competition for Bryce, WTF are you bitching at all of us for? You think we are David Tepper, Dan Morgan, etc? I don't have any control over the ignorant poo they do. 

Sure, it would be great to have invested some resources in a young QB but you also have to be realistic about this roster. It still sucks. We have holes in every possible direction, our depth is a fuging joke and our starters are about as bad. It's genuinely a luxury to be taking a young QB anywhere either than day 3, especially with how weak some of the recent QB drafts have been. And we all know that those day 3 QB's are probably less likely to pan out that some special teams caliber OL/DL/DB/etc. 

I don't blame them for not spamming pick after pick at QB because they already have a massive investment in Bryce. That's the fuging business part of the NFL, like it or not. If it doesn't pan out this year, I fully expect a pivot and given track record, I am quite sure it will fail spectacularly as it has almost a dozen fuging times since Cam's arm got nuked. 

Welcome to Panthers Nation, buddy.