Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

[Panthercougar68]

5 minutes ago, TD alt said:

We do have a QB. Furthermore, Ray Lewis won with Trent Dilfer. Lawrence Taylor won with Phil Simms and Jeff Hostetler. Peppers almost won with Jake Delhomme. It doesn't take an elite QB to win a Super Bowl, it takes an elite team, or at least a good one catching lightning in a bottle.

Psst…Nick Foles *drops mic*

[PNW_PantherMan]

Just now, TD alt said:

Run to pass and pass to run. Have a great defense. The Eagles just used that to perfection in 2025.

I'm not yet convinced we have our Jalen Hurts.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

Yeah, let's wait and pay the franchise tag next year of around 27 million and paint ourselves into a corner with no leverage if we wanted to extend him that 2nd year.  I like signing him now for 22 per year for 2 years.  That cheaper and smarter all the way around.  

 

the dude will be 32 next year and is currently being load managed, what fuging leverage does he have?  You are banking on him having some all pro type season and that is frankly not in his dna.  He is a good RT.  Period end of story.  So far for the excuses for this we have:  1. He deserves this  2. This frees up space to sign or trade for God knows who 3. We are getting a deal because he is going to ball out this year and hold us over the barrel

 

Goddamn people just Goddamn

[TD alt]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

I'm not yet convinced we have our Jalen Hurts.

We can get him. 

All I'm saying is that you have to at least look into acquiring Parsons if he were to seriously become available. Two firsts is just the cost of doing business.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

This sounds like a send off contract and it’s well deserved for Moton.

#1

 

weeeeeeee

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, TD alt said:

We do have a QB. Furthermore, Ray Lewis won with Trent Dilfer. Lawrence Taylor won with Phil Simms and Jeff Hostetler. Peppers almost won with Jake Delhomme. It doesn't take an elite QB to win a Super Bowl, it takes an elite team, or at least a good one catching lightning in a bottle.

We may or may not have a QB. Right now, Bryce has put a lot of bad play and some middling play on film. 

You're talking about a different era of football before they changed the rules of the passing game. The top 16 highest paid players are QBs. Literally half of the league's starting QBs. A good chunk of the rest are probably on rookie contract. It's the only argument I need in terms of how the league views the position.  Money talks and bullshit walks and teams are telling you what is most important with their money.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, TD alt said:

We can get him. 

All I'm saying is that you have to at least look into acquiring Parsons if he were to seriously become available. Two firsts is just the cost of doing business.

Sure. You look into it. Then you find out they want two 1sts and more and he wants to be the highest paid defender in league history. Then you...

 

[TD alt]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We may or may not have a QB. Right now, Bryce has put a lot of bad play and some middling play on film. 

You're talking about a different era of football before they changed the rules of the passing game. The top 16 highest paid players are QBs. Literally half of the league's starting QBs. A good chunk of the rest are probably on rookie contract. It's the only argument I need in terms of how the league views the position.  Money talks and bullshit walks and teams are telling you what is most important with their money.

Like I mentioned, pass rushers are pretty coveted as well. Parsons is not some regular Joe.

Furthermore, as I mentioned also, using run to set up the pads and the pass to set up the run is still a thing. And I shouldn't have to say it, but defense still wins championships. That is still a damned good blueprint for any era of football, damned near sacrosanct.

 

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[TD alt]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sure. You look into it. Then you find out they want two 1sts and more and he wants to be the highest paid defender in league history. Then you...

 

I mean, what do you expect to pay for the best rusher since Lawrence Taylor? I mean, seriously.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I mean, what do you expect to pay for the best rusher since Lawrence Taylor? I mean, seriously.

Nothing because if you don't for sure have a QB you shouldn't even be considering it.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Like I mentioned, pass rushers are pretty coveted as well. Parsons is not some regular Joe.

Furthermore, as I mentioned also, using run to set up the pads and the pass to set up the run is still a thing. And I shouldn't have to say it, but defense still wins championships. That is still a damned good blueprint for any era of football, damned near sacrosanct.

 

And the NFL has told you through actual contracts that literally half the league's starting QBs are worth more than the best pass rushers or any other position for that matter.

[Loyalty4Life]

27 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Giving him the deal isn't the crazy part. It's the fact that it's 93% guaranteed and that this year was added into that amount with a salary conversion to SB. (where he had none guaranteed previously this year) 

I can see and agree with your point here but the money from restructures is a sunk cost.  New money being less than average for a player of his quality was a win for the front office.  Getting almost all of it guaranteed is a win for the player.  The whole deal is just smart football.  He is as healthy as any other vet high end tackle with a history of being on the field. 

There's plenty of risk but that is the case with every NFL contract.  The pros greatly outweigh the cons with the only two cons I can see if the guaranteed money being high and he's not a spring chicken.  Both valid worries but his ability, character, play on the field, salary, and not having to watch Bryce run for his life are worth those risks IMHO.

[TD alt]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Nothing because if you don't for sure have a QB you shouldn't even be considering it.

I strongly disagree. Every potential deal is dependent upon the value. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I strongly disagree. Every potential deal is dependent upon the value. 

Agreed. And there's no value to parting with that type of haul unless you're certain that you have the most important position solved.