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9 minutes ago, frankw said:

Makes no sense. Bryce Young as a rookie at times looked like a fish out of water as an NFL QB.

XL despite his issues with the drops was getting open and blowing past defensive backs.

Definitely noticing a tendency from certain people who harp on XL more than others.

And if anyone can spot tendencies, it's definitely the person who displays them more than anyone else.

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1 minute ago, Joe Bear said:

And if anyone can spot tendencies, it's definitely the person who displays them more than anyone else.

I call it like I see it. When a player plays poorly or makes a stupid mistake I acknowledge it. Did so when XL got himself ejected in preseason.

But there's definitely a lack of consistency when people relentlessly attack a WR who has yet to play a single game in his second season yet make every excuse for the starting QB.

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Just now, frankw said:

I call it like I see it. When a player plays poorly or makes a stupid mistake I acknowledge it. Did so when XL got himself ejected in preseason.

But there's definitely a lack of consistency when people relentlessly attack a WR who has yet to play a single game in his second season yet make every excuse for the starting QB.

I haven't seen much of that, but I'm not on here as often as others. I think people relentlessly attacked the starting QB when he deserved it and when he didn't, and the now second-year WR who looked noticeably worse than the UDFA WR behind him on the depth chart probably deserved a good bit of criticism. I hope they both do a great job and I'm rooting for them. But I didn't see any unnecessary vitriol toward XL. People calling him out for looking unprepared and dropping important passes were stating facts.

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1 minute ago, Joe Bear said:

I haven't seen much of that, but I'm not on here as often as others. I think people relentlessly attacked the starting QB when he deserved it and when he didn't, and the now second-year WR who looked noticeably worse than the UDFA WR behind him on the depth chart probably deserved a good bit of criticism. I hope they both do a great job and I'm rooting for them. But I didn't see any unnecessary vitriol toward XL. People calling him out for looking unprepared and dropping important passes were stating facts.

At the end of the day success of each is dependent on the other. And also at the end of the day as the third year QB the first overall pick and the face of the franchise the onus is on our QB to guide the young WR's. They have to elevate each other.

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This is my most disappointing pre-season since Cam and Olsen....

 

Just terrible.

 

FYI this brainy bunch cut COker, Richardson, and Mays last year at this time......... Mays plays under a 3.3 million deal this year, if he wasn't cut it would have been less than 1 million.

 

fuging brilliant with staff decisions, not only are they vastly under talented but also vastly over paid.  

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