Game Observations

[frankw]

The Panthers are a bad football franchise. We have young receivers who are imperfect. We have had injuries along the OL. But Bryce Young is a downgrade from every single QB that has started for this team since Cam Newton's throwing arm died back in late 2018. And we have invested an absurd amount of resources in order to improve this offense.

Multiple things can be true at one time.

[mc52beast]

Is Canales really a “QB whisperer” or is Bryce just not that guy. I’m giving him a little bit of a break due to injuries around him and some questionable play designs. I don’t know, maybe this team is just cursed and we will never replace Cam. We still haven’t replaced Gross, Kalil, Smitty, Luke…

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Is Canales really a “QB whisperer” or is Bryce just not that guy. I’m giving him a little bit of a break due to injuries around him and some questionable play designs. I don’t know, maybe this team is just cursed and we will never replace Cam. We still haven’t replaced Gross, Kalil, Smitty, Luke…

Canales might end up being a dud but there's nothing he or any other head coach is going to be able to do in order to make Bryce Young taller or not have mediocre at best arm talent.

[mrcompletely11]

57 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Yall had a complex with Cam, but this poo yall have with Bryce is od 

Tell me again why you started a Bryce sucks thread last year

[frankw]

26 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Tell me again why you started a Bryce sucks thread last year

It was actually two. One last year when Bryce was benched and one in late 2023.

And it's his prerogative to do that. But going around here acting as if his is the only rational unbiased word on the situation after doing so and pretending he never did so is certainly odd.

[TD alt]

3 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Blocked. Do the work. 

?

I have a job, and I have my own work to do. I have no desire to put vids together of Bryce or any football player stinking up the field. I'm not a YouTuber. You asked for video proof, I provided it. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Is Canales really a “QB whisperer” or is Bryce just not that guy. I’m giving him a little bit of a break due to injuries around him and some questionable play designs. I don’t know, maybe this team is just cursed and we will never replace Cam. We still haven’t replaced Gross, Kalil, Smitty, Luke…

 

2 hours ago, frankw said:

Canales might end up being a dud but there's nothing he or any other head coach is going to be able to do in order to make Bryce Young taller or not have mediocre at best arm talent.

Qb whisperer assumes there’s a QB to whisper to.

[TD alt]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

It was actually two. One last year when Bryce was benched and one in late 2023.

And it's his prerogative to do that. But going around here acting as if his is the only rational unbiased word on the situation after doing so and pretending he never did so is certainly odd.

He suddenly wants to take the h---uh, short road.

[strato]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

 

Qb whisperer assumes there’s a QB to whisper to.

I think Bryce needed a QB shouter not a whisperer. Louder and more urgent. 
Like a drill Sgt. 

 

Edited September 18, 2025 by strato

[frankw]

11 minutes ago, strato said:

I think Bryce needed a QB shouter not a whisperer. Louder and more urgent. 
Like a drill Sgt. 

[VintagePanther]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is a really terrible take...

 

Prove me wrong . Name his best game ever off the top of your head since he’s been here . You can’t . Name a game where he wrecked it . You can’t. He make a 100 million to have invisible stats . He Doesn’t get sacks at all and dont get tfls. i don’t want to hear about double teams all top dts get double teamed and they produce with numbers to back it up . He makes too much money to never notice him on the field 

[strato]

15 hours ago, frankw said:

Yeah. Like that. I was picturing Sgt Carter yelling at Gomer Pyle, showing my age, but that is good enough right there. 

[strato]

12 hours ago, VintagePanther said:

Prove me wrong . Name his best game ever off the top of your head since he’s been here . You can’t . Name a game where he wrecked it . You can’t. He make a 100 million to have invisible stats . He Doesn’t get sacks at all and dont get tfls. i don’t want to hear about double teams all top dts get double teamed and they produce with numbers to back it up . He makes too much money to never notice him on the field 

Brown is a beast. There was a video up of him totally rag dolling a Cardinal lineman. It was a legit rag dolling of that guy. I haven’t seen one big man do that to another for some time. 
Sacks are not the best measure of his value, IMO. If he takes up two guys then one of his teammates should be eating. I don’t much of that. 
I would say look at Brian Burns the other day tearing. He wasn’t doing that until they put more in the line with him that people have to worry about. Now he is eating. 
 

(hopefully Brown’s teammates will take advantage of what he is doing for them)

Edited September 18, 2025 by strato

[Mr. Scot]

14 hours ago, VintagePanther said:

Prove me wrong . Name his best game ever off the top of your head since he’s been here . You can’t . Name a game where he wrecked it . You can’t. He make a 100 million to have invisible stats . He Doesn’t get sacks at all and dont get tfls. i don’t want to hear about double teams all top dts get double teamed and they produce with numbers to back it up . He makes too much money to never notice him on the field 

How about if I let Brian Baldinger do it for me?

I'd add the notion that "he makes too much money to not have great stats" is a silly argument. Loads of great players in various positions produce lesser stats because teams concentrate on taking them away, which is all part of the chess match.

Stats don't win games. Players do.

Edited September 18, 2025 by Mr. Scot