Drafting X is like the poster board for mistakes. Hopefully, lesson learned.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Smitty will punch you said:

Dog 9 catches for 92 yards a game 

 

 

Is 144 & 1500

 

 

wtf are you talking about. Lmaoo.

 

Does Bryce look like he can get XL 1500 yards in a season? 
 

 

Name another number 2 that’s getting a legit 1200’s per year 

I am not sure how you got to "every game" but okay. What he isn't suppose to do is have 50 yds in 4 games. Especially as a first rounder.

[Smitty will punch you]

52 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not sure how you got to "every game" but okay. What he isn't suppose to do is have 50 yds in 4 games. Especially as a first rounder.

What does keep having games like that mean? 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Smitty will punch you said:

What does keep having games like that mean? 

It means do it again. Like....several times a season, preferably. You know, like a first round draft pick is supposed to?

As far as that as being some unachievable metric, at least that many receptions was accomplished in 6 games by other first round rookie WR's and at least that many yards was accomplished in 13 games by other first round rookies last season. And that was just last year, I can assure you that has happened several times with those same players this year already.

So acting like this is some startlingly rare production is more than a bit ridiculous.

[DeAngelo Beason]

3 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Jumping chest catches. 

Keyword being "catches"

[cranky]

On 10/15/2025 at 5:16 AM, TD alt said:

Yeah, I could jump right into the unbelievable Bryce debate now that some people are trying to flip the script because Bryce Young has, at most, a handful of decent games as a pro, but that's going to work itself out. Suffice it to say that I've seen better QBs (with an s) in a Panthers uniform, and I've certainly seen better QBs be drafted while we're playing around with Bryce, one of them who beat the crap out of us already this season...

Let's forget about Bryce (and his markedly underwhelming play since he's been here); I think that most sane fans will agree that drafting him was an error, but it happens. Sure, it doesn't happen to the tune of King's ransom---including your main receiver---but it happens. You bet, you lose. Speaking of receivers...and betting and losing...

Oh, man, we drafted Xavier Legette. Yes, just like with Bryce, I've entered "the dark side." Some Huddlers were telling us from the beginning, and they were right. But, I'm not apologizing for waiting to see what a guy's got before making my decision on him.

X was a one-year wonder at South Carolina who parlayed some really nice production that season, a great personality and thick country accent, into becoming a first round pick (but only in Carolina). For Dan Morgan and company, He was a big swing that has turned into a big whiff (and I can still feel the ill breeze from that one). Sh¡t happens, right? Well, not so fast. Ladd McConkey was the decidedly more polished receiver who was literally ready to hit the ground running as soon as stepping onto the field as a pro. Ladd was never the biggest guy (though not the smallest), but he was the guy that could run routes, always seemed to get open---no question---and had the same speed as X, but with legit quickness and nuanced shake and bake. But Dan chose the project. He chose the guy where the game speed looks more like a tractor trailer than a 5.0 mustang.

Look, I've supported X (just like Bryce) many many a day, but no more. Now I'm not saying that I won't root for the guy. Just like with Bryce, he seems like a great kid. But as far as giving excuses for the kid, and, perhaps more importantly, waiting for some miraculous breakout, I'm done with that. I've seen enough. You don't draft a project for a project. And yes, Bryce had proven to be a project after his first season. In my mind, drafting a supposedly number one receiver that needs lots of development for a starting quarterback that needs immediate help to try and further his development is not going to lead to good things. Pick the surest guy. Or at least pick the one who appears to be the surest guy, because picking can be tricky... especially when you're too busy tricking yourself. 

So hows this post working out for you lol. Makes you wonder if your just as wrong about Bryce as well.

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, cranky said:

So hows this post working out for you lol. Makes you wonder if your just as wrong about Bryce as well.

I mean.....everyone is happy about his one good game but....we do want more than one good game per season.

He does actually have to do that to prove any of that post wrong.

[TD alt]

35 minutes ago, cranky said:

So hows this post working out for you lol. Makes you wonder if your just as wrong about Bryce as well.

No, it doesn't. For you to be talking a little smack after what amounts to X's best game just shows me that you're more interested in clowning than actual analysis. 

Am I glad that X had a game that was more than 60-something yards the first time in his career? You're damned right I am. Hopefully he can be consistent with the production. Does X still have a lot to work on? Yes he does. I'm not crazy about the body catching and jumping to catch passes, but perhaps he can make it work.  

If you saw my post in the other thread today, you would know that if anything, I am suspecting that X makes a better possession guy than outside guy (and there is nothing wrong with that at the end of the day as long as he's productive), but I thought that he'd be more than that. You'd also have seen that I suspect that Bryce and he aren't necessarily the best pairing. You d have also seen that not only do I suspect that Bryce has a limiting effect on X's YAC, but all the receivers' YAC optimization, as well as the coaches' offensive tool bags as well. I could be wrong, but that s just how I see it. 

I've also said that my realization that I like or dislike a player on the football field is not a static proposition. They can play better, and I can praise them, as much as I can criticize them for consistently sucking. 

X had a good game to be sure, but they'll have to come at a much more consistent pace---basically become the norm, as is the expectation for a WR2 (or 1). To say that I'm "wrong," based upon one game out of seven (not to mention an uninsping rookie year where he was injured for a bit) is getting way ahead of yourself.

Lastly, I want X to do well. I want Bryce to do well. I'm still not holding my breath that either one of them will live up to their draft status, but if they do, I will praise the Lord. 

[TD alt]

5 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

As I said, he's going to be fine.

Yeah, but you can define "fine" any which way you want. I define "fine" as OK, but not necessarily quite what you're expecting. In X's specific case, he needs to at least somewhat live up to his draft status. It would be nice if he consistently played like a high end WR2, but we'll see what happens. At this point, I'll just be happy if he is consistently productive and show that he's a legit NFL starter. If he keeps showing up in key moment and having 60-90 yardish games with a handful of scores every season, that will be "fine" to me (even if I was expecting, or at least hoping for, a little more). Like I said, we'll see what happens. Perhaps yesterday was the start of something.

[cranky]

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

No, it doesn't. For you to be talking a little smack after what amounts to X's best game just shows me that you're more interested in clowning than actual analysis..........

Lastly, I want X to do well. I want Bryce to do well. I'm still not holding my breath that either one of them will live up to their draft status, but if they do, I will praise the Lord. 

Analysis? Is that what you call the OP. It read more like an opnion piece to me. I just don't agree with those opinions at this point in either of their carreers.

But, I am all with you in wanting them to do well. Time will tell though. 

[strato]

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Edited 1 hour ago by strato

[strato]

Well he made some good contributions and hopefully built up some confidence. 

GWe have so many guys who could be targets - Cowboys game 10 different players had receptions. And he isn’r the number one option and then you have a quarterback that is challenged to take advantage of them being open.  You can argue to what degree but the point is that numbers may vary quite a bit from week to week.

I just want him to make the catches he should make and execute his blocks and keep the penalties down. 
 

9/92/TD, 3/40, 2/20, whatever it is that game if he does his job is fine with me. 

Edited 1 hour ago by strato

[strato]

Oops double posted a spell corrected edit. NM. 

[SetfreexX]

I find it odd that as soon as a QB that is capable of throwing the ball downfield enters the game, XL's production goes up...who'd have thought the WR needs the QB to throw them the ball to produce. 

[Panthera onca]

3 hours ago, TD alt said:

No, it doesn't. For you to be talking a little smack after what amounts to X's best game just shows me that you're more interested in clowning than actual analysis. 

Am I glad that X had a game that was more than 60-something yards the first time in his career? You're damned right I am. Hopefully he can be consistent with the production. Does X still have a lot to work on? Yes he does. I'm not crazy about the body catching and jumping to catch passes, but perhaps he can make it work.  

If you saw my post in the other thread today, you would know that if anything, I am suspecting that X makes a better possession guy than outside guy (and there is nothing wrong with that at the end of the day as long as he's productive), but I thought that he'd be more than that. You'd also have seen that I suspect that Bryce and he aren't necessarily the best pairing. You d have also seen that not only do I suspect that Bryce has a limiting effect on X's YAC, but all the receivers' YAC optimization, as well as the coaches' offensive tool bags as well. I could be wrong, but that s just how I see it. 

I've also said that my realization that I like or dislike a player on the football field is not a static proposition. They can play better, and I can praise them, as much as I can criticize them for consistently sucking. 

X had a good game to be sure, but they'll have to come at a much more consistent pace---basically become the norm, as is the expectation for a WR2 (or 1). To say that I'm "wrong," based upon one game out of seven (not to mention an uninsping rookie year where he was injured for a bit) is getting way ahead of yourself.

Lastly, I want X to do well. I want Bryce to do well. I'm still not holding my breath that either one of them will live up to their draft status, but if they do, I will praise the Lord. 

Come on man, you know there is no place for nuanced thinking and analysis here on the huddle. It’s just a bunch of clowns thinking in black or white terms and wanting to beat their chests and scream about how right they are and how wrong everyone else is.