Trade for a QB?

[Captroop]

Here's where I'm at. As crazy as it sounds *deep inhale*... I think we need to seriously need a QB to gear up for a playoff run.

I know! I know! Hear me out.

Windows and Parity. 

Windows are fleeting in the NFL, and we seem to have surprisingly found ourselves with a pretty complete team. We have a deep bench of receiving threats. We have a defense that, while maybe not world-beaters, is still capable of keeping winning within reach. We have a really solid game-clinching kicker. And we have a genuinely scary running attack. Teams like that don't come around all the time. And again, while this team, on paper, is not championship caliber, that leads into my next point.

Parity. This year is really strange in that the top flight of the league from the last few years (Chiefs, Ravens, Chargers, Bengals, Eagles, 49ers) seem more beatable than they have been for several season. Outside of the Colts, I don't see any team in the league that the Panthers couldn't beat if the ball bounces the right way once or twice. And currently, we're only 1 win behind our division leader.

I think with Bryce, we're a 7-11 team. But if you add a above-average QB to this particular team in this particular season, I think they are capable of making a playoff run. 

Bryce is hurt this week, so now is the time to make the move without it completely looking like an indictment of Bryce. And if you get a win or two (especially against the Bills and Packers) then I think you just keep rolling with him.

[kungfoodude]

No. Stop with the panic. 

Keep the draft resources. I know you guys all love Scott Fitterer but fuging stop being him all the time.

[LinvilleGorge]

It's not like people are clamoring to trade prime assets. We're basically just saying to pick up the phone and see what might be available for a late round pick. With a 6th round pick you only have about a 2% chance of becoming an NFL starter. Hell, you have about 50/50 odds of making the 53 man roster.

[Bear Hands]

This conversation can be had without Bryce even being involved.

He's likely out next week, Dalton has been bad, and Hooker (as fun as his college highlights are), is not NFL quality.

We likely need to pick up a FA. Heinecke is available...just saying 

[Panthering]

Absolute do not trade a single thing for these bum QBs being spouted in this thread. Sam Howell?? 

My goodness! 

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

This conversation can be had without Bryce even being involved.

He's likely out next week, Dalton has been bad, and Hooker (as fun as his college highlights are), is not NFL quality.

We likely need to pick up a FA. Heinecke is available...just saying 

Would rather dig in the FA pile than make some stupid trade. If we make a panic trade, the Dan/Scott Fitterer link will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I am so fuging sick of all this nonsensical trade BS. 

[Captroop]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Would rather dig in the FA pile than make some stupid trade. If we make a panic trade, the Dan/Scott Fitterer link will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I am so fuging sick of all this nonsensical trade BS. 

Flacco was acquired for a 5th/6th pick swap...

[Bear Hands]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Would rather dig in the FA pile than make some stupid trade. If we make a panic trade, the Dan/Scott Fitterer link will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I am so fuging sick of all this nonsensical trade BS. 

I don't think there's much to even panic trade for which is the good news. 

Just from a numbers perspective with Bryce out, we will likely sign someone.  Hooker is not good.  Like at all.    We're looking at probably Heinecke, CJ Beathard, Jake Fromm, etc. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Captroop said:

Flacco was acquired for a 5th/6th pick swap...

Dude is asking like people are clamoring for some major trade when this is the type of move people are actually clamoring for.

[captfluoro]

33 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I think he's past his prime now. lol

But in his day, he could throw a football a quarter mile.  If his high school coach had played him, they would have won state.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I don't think there's much to even panic trade for which is the good news. 

Just from a numbers perspective with Bryce out, we will likely sign someone.  Hooker is not good.  Like at all.    We're looking at probably Heinecke, CJ Beathard, Jake Fromm, etc. 

Yeah, Hooker is really quite bad. Those other guys are definitely not good either but still better than Hooker.

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Dude is asking like people are clamoring for some major trade when this is the type of move people are actually clamoring for.

There aren't a bunch of Joe Flacco's around. There are a bunch of guys who can very effectively kill salary cap space and lose games really, really badly. 

This is the same message board that has brought such recent takes such as, "We should trade for Jake Browning!" or "We should try and get Anthony Richardson!"

No. fuging....NO.

[Captroop]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, Hooker is really quite bad. Those other guys are definitely not good either but still better than Hooker.

There aren't a bunch of Joe Flacco's around. There are a bunch of guys who can very effectively kill salary cap space and lose games really, really badly. 

This is the same message board that has brought such recent takes such as, "We should trade for Jake Browning!" or "We should try and get Anthony Richardson!"

No. fuging....NO.

The risk with FAs is we don't know what kind of shape they're in. All these guys are on NFL rosters now, so they're in playing shape. 

• Carson Wentz
• Taylor Heinicke  
• Mac Jones
• Jimmy Garoppolo

All of these guys are expendable on their current teams, and would be an improvement over our current QB room. I don't think any of these guys are demanding more than a 5th and maybe swap one of our backup QBs.

 

[McLovin]

21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Dude is asking like people are clamoring for some major trade when this is the type of move people are actually clamoring for.

Seriously. We have an extra 5th and it would be for someone that we're essentially taking a flier on.

Sam Howell, for instance, could probably be had for that and only has a $1.1 million cap number. If it doesn't work, he hits FA and we don't resign him.

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There aren't a bunch of Joe Flacco's around. There are a bunch of guys who can very effectively kill salary cap space and lose games really, really badly. 

This is the same message board that has brought such recent takes such as, "We should trade for Jake Browning!" or "We should try and get Anthony Richardson!"

No. fuging....NO.

This is just a non-argument. Jameis and Howell are the guys being mentioned most often.  Jameis is an a two year/$8M contract and Howell is on a one year/$1.1M contract. What I'd be willing to do is something along the lines of a 6th rounder or a 5th/6th swap. I don't think anyone is talking about doing anything much more aggressive than something along those lines.