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I'm All In On Drafting a QB in Round 1

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strato Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

It was more that they had to draft that QB.

They made a big song and dance about vetting them all. They thought they were the smartest guys in the room.

Instead Fitterer is now bumming around in someone else's Front Office making coffee and Tepper is out tens of millions of dollars. 

You can refine the point with that picture but the overall issue is that Tepper was tired of waiting.  
 

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Unpopular opinion here but I would not mind picking up Diego Pavia in the 3rd or 4th round. The dude has this Moxie about him that I really like and he is tough. I know many probably won't want him because he is undersized but I love his confidence.

 

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4 minutes ago, strato said:

Yeah that was what was reported. 

That's what's always going to be reported. That's always the message. Just like every player who has ever been drafted was the BPA on that team's board. It's not like they're ever going to admit that there was any disagreement in the draft room or that they panicked and reached based on need.

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Unpopular opinion here but I would not mind picking up Diego Pavia in the 3rd or 4th round. The dude has this movie about him that I really like and he is tough. I know many probably won't want him because he is undersized but I love his confidence.

 

3rd or 4th is too high but 6th? Wouldn't mind it and that's about where I expect him to go.

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Two problems with taking a QB in round one this draft, well three considering Bryce isn't going anywhere, are draft spot and quality of depth.  So I think we are probably going to be closer to the teens than we are top 5.  That said, the crap teams needing a QB this year will undoubtedly scare some guys back to school.  This is a HEAVY underclassmen group.  Very few of the top guys have run out of eligible years.  If the board stacks like Jets. Browns...bet the bulk of the underclassmen go back to school.  Then that's going to leave the class with the likes of Beck, Klubnick and Allar (whose a medical red flag now).

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2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Two problems with taking a QB in round one this draft, well three considering Bryce isn't going anywhere, are draft spot and quality of depth.  So I think we are probably going to be closer to the teens than we are top 5.  That said, the crap teams needing a QB this year will undoubtedly scare some guys back to school.  This is a HEAVY underclassmen group.  Very few of the top guys have run out of eligible years.  If the board stacks like Jets. Browns...bet the bulk of the underclassmen go back to school.  Then that's going to leave the class with the likes of Beck, Klubnick and Allar (whose a medical red flag now).

I hate to break it to prospects but if you're looking at being a high 1st round pick you're going to a poo team. 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hate to break it to prospects but if you're looking at being a high 1st round pick you're going to a poo team. 

Eh, teams have off years, a few franchises are just poo all the time. If I had a NIL deal and still was eligible with the very real prospect of being taken by the Jets or Browns, you had better believe my butt would be going back to campus.  NIL deals have reduced the lure of foregoing school for a for a quicker payday.  If a QB is good enough for a first or second round grade, he's already making a million or more of NIL money.

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Eh, teams have off years, a few franchises are just poo all the time. If I had a NIL deal and still was eligible with the very real prospect of being taken by the Jets or Browns, you had better believe my butt would be going back to campus.  NIL deals have reduced the lure of foregoing school for a for a quicker payday.  If a QB is good enough for a first or second round grade, he's already making a million or more of NIL money.

Those teams are gonna be ass again next year too.

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28 minutes ago, methodtoll said:

Unpopular opinion here but I would not mind picking up Diego Pavia in the 3rd or 4th round. The dude has this Moxie about him that I really like and he is tough. I know many probably won't want him because he is undersized but I love his confidence.

 

I haven’t seen him but just want to comment that the mid rounds are where you are supposed to take a chance on an undersized outlier type of a guy. 

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10 hours ago, methodtoll said:

Unpopular opinion here but I would not mind picking up Diego Pavia in the 3rd or 4th round. The dude has this Moxie about him that I really like and he is tough. I know many probably won't want him because he is undersized but I love his confidence.

 

I don't think he has an NFL arm.

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23 hours ago, Navy_football said:

We don't have great young talent at WR and TE. We have young potential at WR and TE. They are NOT great - yet.

Depends on perspective. I do think the talent is great. Whether T-Mac reaches his potential is another story, especially within these current circumstances. Some of the metrics are really good already (like average yards per catch). Even PFF already had him as the 20th or so best WR in the league.

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      You don’t even need 1b because Tepper is the only one foolish enough to wheel that deal.    Player wise? Jake’s elbow. JR and Pep getting sideways, no Carruth, Cam’s shoulder, Luke’s concussions, it would be a long list of stuff. You can take it down to certain plays in games. Fox chasing 2 point conversions in the SB would be on my list. RMJr slipping at the end of that same game was not helpful. 
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      Ultimately this just amounts to heavy revisionist history. I mean you aren't talking to someone that just popped out the womb a week ago. I was here all throughout the predraft process. The overwhelming majority of the fanbase felt like this was a fine situation and the best situation for a rookie QB to go to compared to Houston for example. The hype for Young and our "rockstar" staff was off the charts. No one could dare speak cautious skepticism of his abilities or they would be neg repped into oblivion. Only after he had one of statistical worst rookie seasons of the last 25 years did we get this narrative now that his rookie season actually shouldn't count. Complete malarkey if you ask me.
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      On the field? Since I guess it qualifies as multiple instances it might not count, but have the damn refs throw some flags on illegal hits to Cam's head in SB50. If that doesn't count, 1A. Cotchery caught it 1B. Kasey keeps that kickoff inbounds. Off the field? 1A. Team is sold to anyone but Tepper 1B. We have the patience not to mortgage the franchise on that Bryce trade. Stroudwpuldve been the better pick but he's not worth it either.
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