Another example of Bryce playing chess that casuals wouldn’t notice or appreciate

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Accurate take...

The whole "we won in spite of our starting quarterback" line is just dumb. Hell, people used to do that with Delhomme too.

Reality is you either do enough to win or you don't. This past Sunday, he did.

Honestly, at this point I think we have some folks (especially some of the old Cam bros) who are so scared of Young succeeding that they'll try and deny anything good about him. It's silly and it's useless, but I guess some guys can't help themselves.

I don't think Young is the future, but that doesn't make it valid to try and discredit anything good he does. It just makes you look goofy.

Plenty of guys do enough to win on Sunday. That doesn't make them franchise QBs. Brissett beat Dallas last night. Think Arizona is ready to crown him king? What did Young do Sunday that you wouldn't expect from any other QB in the NFL on any given Sunday? 

I'm not scared of him succeeding. I want him to succeed. Succeeding is the best thing for this team. But I didnt see one thing on Sunday that made me think that guy is a franchise QB. 8 games into year 3 and I'm still waiting to be able to say that. 

Bryce did what was asked of him which was not much and nearly nothing compared to other QBs in the league. At some point, he's going to have to be able to carry a team from start to finish with no running game and beat a team when there's actually something on the line, not when we're already eliminated. You cannot give him franchise QB money when he hasn't had a single franchise QB game performance. 

[frankw]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Accurate take...

The whole "we won in spite of our starting quarterback" line is just dumb. Hell, people used to do that with Delhomme too.

Reality is you either do enough to win or you don't. This past Sunday, he did.

Honestly, at this point I think we have some folks (especially some of the old Cam bros) who are so scared of Young succeeding that they'll try and deny anything good about him. It's silly and it's useless, but I guess some guys can't help themselves.

I don't think Young is the future, but that doesn't make it valid to try and discredit anything good he does. It just makes you look goofy.

Bryce Young is not Jake Delhomme. In any capacity. They don't belong in the same conversation.

If Bryce is in line with any Panthers QB it's Jimmy Clausen.

[CPcavedweller]

17 hours ago, Super Grateful said:

it's become apparent that you are going to play devils advocate and assume the worse regarding Bryce no matter the example, so at this point your opinion is even more useless than it already was.  

He threw for 101 yards and an interception in the Redzone. Regardless of this specific play, we have another, what 33 minutes of possession time to examine?

[CPcavedweller]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Bryce Young is not Jake Delhomme. In any capacity. They don't belong in the same conversation.

If Bryce is in line with any Panthers QB it's Jimmy Clausen.

Bryce is lightyears ahead of Jimmy.

But if the Panthers had Josh Allen this team would likely be 8-1 right now. Everything else is there, except for tight end and running back. 

[csx]

Draw plays are chess played by Canales 

[csx]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Accurate take...

The whole "we won in spite of our starting quarterback" line is just dumb. Hell, people used to do that with Delhomme too.

Reality is you either do enough to win or you don't. This past Sunday, he did.

Honestly, at this point I think we have some folks (especially some of the old Cam bros) who are so scared of Young succeeding that they'll try and deny anything good about him. It's silly and it's useless, but I guess some guys can't help themselves.

I don't think Young is the future, but that doesn't make it valid to try and discredit anything good he does. It just makes you look goofy.

Giving him credit for Dowdle and the Defense is just dumb.

[frankw]

14 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Bryce is lightyears ahead of Jimmy.

Bryce Young career passing yards per attempt: 5.8

Bryce Young passing yards per game in his third season as a starter: 173.8

Jimmy Clausen career passing yards per attempt: 5.3

Jimmy Clausen average passing yards per game in 2010: 119.8

He's a high end Jimmy Clausen it is what it is man. His yards per play within an offense that relies on others are within the same threshold. You can win some games with him when everything is going right and other moving parts are carrying the burden. But that is not worthy of a #1 pick and you absolutely have to keep looking.

Edited 6 hours ago by frankw

[Joe Bear]

There's definitely a handful of people on here who blamed Bryce Young when gas prices went up.

[fanpanther]

8 hours ago, cranky said:

Why does everyone keep saying it will cost 80M to sign him. That' just ridiculous.  It's 9M next year and will cost 26M for his fifth year option - not 80M. Can you show me any QB that is significantly better at that price. 

bc panthers dont need him for just 5 years they need to extend him long term easily top 5qb money gotta pay the best what they are worth.  daniel jones and mac jones both playing alot better alot cheaper this year though.  

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 hours ago, cranky said:

Why does everyone keep saying it will cost 80M to sign him. That' just ridiculous.  It's 9M next year and will cost 26M for his fifth year option - not 80M. Can you show me any QB that is significantly better at that price. 

He's not playing on his 4th year so we're either going to have to extend him or pick up his 5th year. If we pick up his 5th year, that 18m AAV for what's realistically backup level play. If we do an extension, I'd expect his agent to want in the 35-40m AAV range on a 4-5 year deal with 80% guaranteed and about 50-60% as a signing bonus. Can't do that either based on current level of play. Puts us in a pickle. Can't extend him, and do you pick up the 5th year knowing you have to bring in a legit 2nd QB to compete for the starting role, who we also have to pay decent money to and eat Dalton's dead cap, plus pay Icky franchise LT money. It's all a mess. 

[strato]

4 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

There's definitely a handful of people on here who blamed Bryce Young when gas prices went up.

Okay, and there are a few on here would would blow him. 

[csx]

4 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

There's definitely a handful of people on here who blamed Bryce Young when gas prices went up.

Really just talking about his completion percentage and anemic passing production.

Edited 2 hours ago by csx

[CRA]

4 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Bryce is lightyears ahead of Jimmy.

But if the Panthers had Josh Allen this team would likely be 8-1 right now. Everything else is there, except for tight end and running back. 

I mean, he isn’t light years ahead of Jimmy.  He is closer to Jimmy than Jake/Cam.  Bryce is really more of the Kyle Allen-ish tier of Panthers QBs. 

[strato]

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, he isn’t light years ahead of Jimmy.  He is closer to Jimmy than Jake/Cam.  Bryce is really more of the Kyle Allen-ish tier of Panthers QBs. 

On a good day. On a bad day he is Jimmy, easily.