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Another example of Bryce playing chess that casuals wouldn’t notice or appreciate


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5 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

I agree whole-heartedly. Or perhaps Canales has already made his decision about the future and he's just minimalizing Bryce because, well, that's the only option. It's not like we can promote Dalton to starter (he's just spent), we don't have anyone else on the bench for real and we are past the trade deadline. And the few free agents that are out there are rusty and unreliable at this point.

After writing that, I'm pretty sure that Canales has a change at QB already in his plans for next season. It would take miraculous play from Bryce to change that at this point. 

I am not convinced he is as anti-Bryce as we believe. I realize the benching last year makes it seem possible he has been over Bryce buuuut....he's also the same dude that makes pretty terrible other personnel decisions, as well. 

Corbett over Mays at C, Sanders over Evans at TE, XL over just about anyone on the roster at WR, etc, etc.

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not convinced he is as anti-Bryce as we believe. I realize the benching last year makes it seem possible he has been over Bryce buuuut....he's also the same dude that makes pretty terrible other personnel decisions, as well. 

Corbett over Mays at C, Sanders over Evans at TE, XL over just about anyone on the roster at WR, etc, etc.

Looks like Mays will be our C this week, ain't no one really shining as a TE yet, the XL thing may just be the old adage that you never see the real WR until the third season. 

And I'm not saying he's anti-Bryce, but just that he's a realist. Working with what he has. And a lot of the decisions as to who gets playing time are made based on stuff you and I will never see, because it's behind the scenes.

Time will tell, but in the meantime, what a curious season this has been and one with more opportunity than we've seen in a while. I plan on enjoying the roller coaster ride for what it is and I'm looking forward to next season as well. I've said it before, and it bears repeating, something's being built here and it looks like it might be good if we're patient.

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14 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Looks like Mays will be our C this week, ain't no one really shining as a TE yet, the XL thing may just be the old adage that you never see the real WR until the third season. 

And I'm not saying he's anti-Bryce, but just that he's a realist. Working with what he has. And a lot of the decisions as to who gets playing time are made based on stuff you and I will never see, because it's behind the scenes.

Time will tell, but in the meantime, what a curious season this has been and one with more opportunity than we've seen in a while. I plan on enjoying the roller coaster ride for what it is and I'm looking forward to next season as well. I've said it before, and it bears repeating, something's being built here and it looks like it might be good if we're patient.

I am not trying to get overly excited but the 2025 draft class returns have been far better than I expected.

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22 hours ago, strato said:

Okay. I guess I would ask, if he goes elsewhere would he have to compete or would he just be handed the job? 
I am thinking with what he has shown, doubtful that it is handed to him. He and his agent may have to contend with that as a reality when they weigh their options. 

I don’t think he is that hard to replace from a performance aspect. If the teammates really do support him, all in, that would be my biggest consideration before going hardball. But you can’t pay this guy 18 million for two years, as things stand today, without at least considering other cheaper options. 
 

Hard to say without seeing how he ends the season.

It brings up a point I've been meaning to mention, though. One of the things you have to factor in when you're thinking about what contract negotiations will look like is the feelings of his teammates.

Team chemistry is (and should be) a big deal. If he's majorly supported by those around him, you do you have to at least consider that in the equation.

The downside?

Jake Delhomme's teammates would have followed him to the gates of hell and beyond. That likely played in to a rather I'll conceived decision to keep him around longer than we should have.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hard to say without seeing how he ends the season.

It brings up a point I've been meaning to mention, though. One of the things you have to factor in when you're thinking about what contract negotiations will look like is the feelings of his teammates.

Team chemistry is (and should be) a big deal. If he's majorly supported by those around him, you do you have to at least consider that in the equation.

The downside?

Jake Delhomme's teammates would have followed him to the gates of hell and beyond. That likely played in to a rather I'll conceived decision to keep him around longer than we should have.

Thats actually a really nice point, I am sure the players put on the team face and support Bryce but fug man that are on the field and see this poo just like us, they have to be think "damn man what happens when Rico walks in the offseason?"

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49 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hard to say without seeing how he ends the season.

It brings up a point I've been meaning to mention, though. One of the things you have to factor in when you're thinking about what contract negotiations will look like is the feelings of his teammates.

Team chemistry is (and should be) a big deal. If he's majorly supported by those around him, you do you have to at least consider that in the equation.

The downside?

Jake Delhomme's teammates would have followed him to the gates of hell and beyond. That likely played in to a rather I'll conceived decision to keep him around longer than we should have.

You do, but chemistry only takes you so far. Jake led his team on the biggest stage and was one bad kickoff and some taped practices away from a Lombardi. Leadership is great, but there has to be a measure of success too. 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hard to say without seeing how he ends the season.

It brings up a point I've been meaning to mention, though. One of the things you have to factor in when you're thinking about what contract negotiations will look like is the feelings of his teammates.

Team chemistry is (and should be) a big deal. If he's majorly supported by those around him, you do you have to at least consider that in the equation.

The downside?

Jake Delhomme's teammates would have followed him to the gates of hell and beyond. That likely played in to a rather I'll conceived decision to keep him around longer than we should have.

And Jeff George’s teammates hated him.

(And I was talking about elsewhere, if we were to be out. Implies he didn’t finish much different than he has shown) 
Yeah I mentioned that teammate emotional barometer in a post yesterday I think. (Oh hell right there in the post you answered lol.)


That is something. One hopes they can remember it’s a business and accept change if it comes. 
And I hope Morgan and Canales and Tepper all of them don’t overestimate that if he doesn’t pick it up because feeling is not a good enough reason in my book when you talk big money extension. 

 

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19 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

Besides Jones, this is wrong....Carr was a early 2nd rounder. Wentz got traded after eagles gave him 120+ million, same for Goff got a bag and dumped. 

 

Trey Lance was traded to Dallas before his 4th. 

Zack Wilson got traded to bronco after his 3rd yr for used PB&J sandwich

Josh Rosen was traded in his second year.

Sam darnold was trade here after his 3rd year, if you member Panthers also picked up his 5th yr option as part of the trade.

Kenny Pickett traded after his 3rd year

Mac Jones was traded recently

Justin Fields was traded after his 3rd year

 

Its prime decision time in the off-season. Again BY and his crew/agent have some cards to play and there .001% he plays on 4th year here without some sort contract. 

I actually wanna take this quote and use it as a thread since my answer is a bit...longwinded.

(shocking, I know) 😕

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I actually wanna take this quote and use it as a thread since my answer is a bit...longwinded.

(shocking, I know) 😕

 

You're more than welcome and Scott all of us have experienced your long posting. Id say most have been showered with positivity. If not I'll still read your reply, either way. 

My line of thinking we are in-season and by some miracles the Panthers are in the playoff hunt. While its the biggest decision in panther history, maybe it does need time during the off-season dull period. Im also not one to tell people what to talk about or when to to do so or what positive/negative etc.(boy the board is awful BY heavy.....). I do not like to tell my fellow Panthers fans how to fan.(I normally only jump in when its classless stuff or the common division BS ) 

Like I said, its the biggest choice and the effect will change the direction of this team for years to come.... 

 

Be unreal to hear Brandt/Dans TRUE thoughts on this topic...

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9 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Thats actually a really nice point, I am sure the players put on the team face and support Bryce but fug man that are on the field and see this poo just like us, they have to be think "damn man what happens when Rico walks in the offseason?"

I don't think it's guaranteed they see Bryce the way we do.

But whatever they think, don't doubt that it will be taken into account.

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8 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

You do, but chemistry only takes you so far. Jake led his team on the biggest stage and was one bad kickoff and some taped practices away from a Lombardi. Leadership is great, but there has to be a measure of success too. 

Keeping post Tommy John Delhomme was a mistake, but one that a lot of players agreed with.

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8 hours ago, strato said:

And Jeff George’s teammates hated him.

(And I was talking about elsewhere, if we were to be out. Implies he didn’t finish much different than he has shown) 
Yeah I mentioned that teammate emotional barometer in a post yesterday I think. (Oh hell right there in the post you answered lol.)


That is something. One hopes they can remember it’s a business and accept change if it comes. 
And I hope Morgan and Canales and Tepper all of them don’t overestimate that if he doesn’t pick it up because feeling is not a good enough reason in my book when you talk big money extension. 

 

Luke Kuechly got pissed because his position coach got fired.

Didn't result in any issues but he said it was an adjustment.

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4 hours ago, Basbear said:

You're more than welcome and Scott all of us have experienced your long posting. Id say most have been showered with positivity. If not I'll still read your reply, either way. 

My line of thinking we are in-season and by some miracles the Panthers are in the playoff hunt. While its the biggest decision in panther history, maybe it does need time during the off-season dull period. Im also not one to tell people what to talk about or when to to do so or what positive/negative etc.(boy the board is awful BY heavy.....). I do not like to tell my fellow Panthers fans how to fan.(I normally only jump in when its classless stuff or the common division BS ) 

Like I said, its the biggest choice and the effect will change the direction of this team for years to come.... 

Be unreal to hear Brandt/Dans TRUE thoughts on this topic...

Don't we wish 😄

If we do indeed get to the playoffs, maybe even win our first game or something like that, then short of a Jake vs the Cardinals type debacle, moving on from Bryce becomes a hard sell to players...and the pro-Bryce elements of the fanbase.

(which does indeed exist)

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