What is closest to your Bryce opinion?

[woahfraze]

As a general optimist who tries to be even handed, I was in the “I have hope” but it’s now gone category. 

I acknowledged that the bad games were more frequent than the OK ones which were in turn more frequent than the good ones. I just held out hope that he could put things together and more consistently perform at those mid and higher levels. But I’m off that train now. I think he can probably improve his consistency a bit from where he is, but it’ll never be good enough.

He’s on the roster next year because he’s under contract, but I don’t think we should pick up his 5th year option and definitely not extend him. He may start next year too because there genuinely are not as many competent QBs as there are starting spots in the league, so the alternatives are all trash. But we’ve got to get fresh blood in the QB room and find our next starter. 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Canales biggest problem is himself. He cannot figure out what the average Huddler can.

We ran the ball to substantially above average success against the 49ers but then continued to call pass play after pass play for a bad QB.

The overall fault of the offensive struggling fall far more into Canales lap than even Bryce's. How many times has he continued to do the exact same thing? Go away from something working for unknown reasons?

I do think there is a win/lose aspect he is presently in with his QB situation.   Let's say he does some really good Steve Wilks play ugly to win coaching......with a really ugly game plan beats SF (which we could have), gets New Orleans, and a Tampa game.  Completely minimizes Bryce Young. 

well, that would have put him at 9-8 on the season.   And then......Bryce Young is going nowhere.  Maybe Morgan replaces Dalton but the Bryce conundrum gets even worse.  Now you go that 5th year.  and we know Bryce is going to get unfair credit.  He already gets absurd credit for anything that goes okay. 

you are to an extent damned if you do if you are Canales IMO.  

I want them all gone.  I just don't think Tepper can get the hire.  I think the only way Tepper can get a good hire....is to give a decent coach way more power than Tepper would like.  

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, woahfraze said:

As a general optimist who tries to be even handed, I was in the “I have hope” but it’s now gone category. 

I acknowledged that the bad games were more frequent than the OK ones which were in turn more frequent than the good ones. I just held out hope that he could put things together and more consistently perform at those mid and higher levels. But I’m off that train now. I think he can probably improve his consistency a bit from where he is, but it’ll never be good enough.

He’s on the roster next year because he’s under contract, but I don’t think we should pick up his 5th year option and definitely not extend him. He may start next year too because there genuinely are not as many competent QBs as there are starting spots in the league, so the alternatives are all trash. But we’ve got to get fresh blood in the QB room and find our next starter. 

I still contend no well run team would have him on the roster next year.  You got to move on from him.  And you can't put the #1 overall pick, 3 year starter as the backup...that creates horrific in house dynamics. 

[woahfraze]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

I still contend no well run team would have him on the roster next year.  You got to move on from him.  And you can't put the #1 overall pick, 3 year starter as the backup...that creates horrific in house dynamics. 

You absolutely can start someone over him with the level of performance he’s shown over a large sample size. Doesn’t matter what his pedigree is. I think the locker room really does like him, but they like winning more. If there’s another QB on the roster that can beat him out for starter, it won’t be a problem. The issue is, as bad as he’s been, I’m not sure there is a QB that can so definitely beat him out in that fashion. A rookie is going to struggle because the 2026 class is pretty poor and just in general, the transition to pro QB is more difficult now than it has been in the past because the college game doesn’t require QBs to play under center or attack the areas of the field a pro style offense does. And the retreads are always a gamble. For every Darnold or Daniel Jones that finally puts it together after 5-6 years, there’s a dozen other busts who can’t.