Bryce Slinging Dots Downfield

[weyco2000]

16 hours ago, strato said:

Need a time out? 
People get tired of the glaze. We see the throws. I am sure we cheered them. 
 

Then we see them get characterized like plain looking women that think they are 10s. 
There is nothing wrong with a good solid 7. Let it be a 7. You don’t have to try and make it into a 10. With the dots. It is like when guys say Bryce can’t throw over 5 yards. Same poo in the opposite direction. 
 

As far as touch and timing passes they were excellent throws. 

I never mentioned the term dot, i said they were perfect throws. Those were clutch throws on 4th down  that won the game, just giving the man credit. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I've seen a few. Laser throw into triple coverage that misses the defender's hands by a hair and you ask yourself how did the receiver even see it much less catch it. Those are darts. Perfect placed pass on an insanely critical play for a first down or TD. There can be short yardage darts, but they've got a higher criteria to meet, IMO. 

I would classify that as one as well. There's so few of those in games that's why the comment get made. It's any past the takes accuracy, timing, a great deal of difficulty to complete and pressure.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I would classify that as one as well. There's so few of those in games that's why the comment get made. It's any past the takes accuracy, timing, a great deal of difficulty to complete and pressure.

I generally judge a dart to be the QB pass version of the Beckham Jr catch. I'm sitting there asking myself how the F did he make that throw. 

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

That's still semantics then as to what you'd call this specific pass.

My point was THIS is the type of pass that deserves superlatives to be used to describe it, whatever you want to call said superlative is sure, personal opinion.

But that's my generic stance in this thread, the pass needs to be special to be called "slinging dots downfield" or whatever else you want to call it.  Those two TD passes were certainly good passes, I'm not trying to say they were bad.  But in reality, they were pretty standard throws for an NFL QB to be able to make (and honestly, pretty standard for most college QB's as well), hence why I can't agree with calling it dot, dart, dime, or whatever else you want to use.

I'm not sure you see a lot of those throws on 4th and short under those same circumstances. Thats not a routine thow my friend. On 1st or second down throughout the game? Sure. The pressure to make those throws are much different. 

[strato]

So I am clear, do we have a distinction between dart and dot? 

[weyco2000]

On 11/30/2025 at 5:11 PM, tukafan21 said:

Nobody is bashing the throws, but trying to say the throws were something other than what they were and using it as the proof that he should be our long term solution is what many of us view as unbearable.

Even if those were the two greatest throws in the history of the NFL, 2 throws a game, or even worse, 2 throws every few weeks, is not a sustainable way to build a long term successful team.

We're not bashing Bryce to bash Bryce, we point out legitimate concerns we objectively see with our own eyes and project how they might affect our/his future.

I’m not defending Bryce on his overall performance, just defending his play in this particular game. 

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I generally judge a dart to be the QB pass version of the Beckham Jr catch. I'm sitting there asking myself how the F did he make that throw. 

I may have only seen 2 or 3 of those throws in my life. I'm not sure they have a classification other than unbelievable. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, strato said:

So I am clear, do we have a distinction between dart and dot? 

No, it's whatever you want it to be.

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm not sure you see a lot of those throws on 4th and short under those same circumstances. Thats not a routine thow my friend. On 1st or second down throughout the game? Sure. The pressure to make those throws are much different. 

Fair point, but then again, we're getting into semantics and then where maybe everyone views things differently.

If you're factoring in situation, I'd call it a "play" and not a "throw", and you can't deny, I've said numerous times in this thread that I was giving him full credit for making the throw in that situation.

Personally, I view a "play" and a "throw" as totally separate things.  A play takes everything into consideration, a throw is literally just about the throw itself and the physical skill required to make it.

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I may have only seen 2 or 3 of those throws in my life. I'm not sure they have a classification other than unbelievable. 

LOL, finally something we can 100% agree on.

I almost quoted it and said, "so you've only seen less than 5 dart throws in your life?"

[Jon Snow]

Just now, tukafan21 said:

LOL, finally something we can 100% agree on.

I almost quoted it and said, "so you've only seen less than 5 dart throws in your life?"

Those ain't darts. Darts you see all the time. You will know an unbelievable pass when you see one. They are as rare as a Hollywood virgin.

[Aussie Tank]

Those 4th down tuddies were dots you miserable fugs 

[strato]

32 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Also you are nitpicking that pass. He put it right where it needed to be and in stride. I am as big as critical as anyone about Young but I know a great pass when I see one. Those 2 passes we dots, dimes whatever the hell you want to call it. Saying otherwise makes you petty and you lose all credibility. 

If you look at what I said about those throws I said said they were great. Never denied them. 
I probably credited his execution and focus n that situation more than the qualitiy of the throw itself, which was good not really *that* difficult with good protection. He put the ball out there and the receivers went and got it just like they were supposed to. 
Not fuging it up when you have it right there is probably harder to ‘get’ than the throw itself. A bigger hurdle. That doesn’t denigrate anything it credits so you know I don’t feel like I denied anything except the characterization of the throw as different than what it was. That goes to the back and forth between the two sides  

 

[Loyalty4Life]

For such an easy pass I see top QB's every week overthrow deep balls.  Timing and accuracy on deep throws is not the same at all as throwing against air. 

Dropping dimes might be harder than throwing dots.