First 4 NFL starts - Tyler Shough

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Sycophants sold out to Young falsely portray doubters as not wanting to win. 
Lame. We want to win. Of course. But one barely winning season at 9-8 doesn’t prove poo in the big picture. It feels good, sure. Fine. 

It is more we don’t believe Young, so far, has demonstrated that he is the answer. And having the answer is far more important to us than a single season’s winning record. That maybe… maybe, happens by a game. 
How many real games has he had that can demand we bow down to a multi year commitment and declare the issue settled? Not enough for us. And that is the big picture objective.

I would bet collectively we see the people who are sold off of the three or four good games while ignoring equal numbers of bad games - some that we somehow still won, some we lost - as not having high enough standards. 

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8 hours ago, cranky said:

Well than so are Baker Mayfield, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Trevor Lawrence, Cam Ward and Caleb Williams. Are you claiming they should all be dumped because they are also below average?

Goddamn dude.  You can't be this stupid 

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10 hours ago, cranky said:

He is 22nd in comp% ahead of Baker Mayfield, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Trevor Lawrence, Cam Ward and Caleb Williams. 

The league averge is 64.6. Young is currently 63.4%. I'm not sure a little over 1% difference below average is worth complaining about.

Youngs' rating is 87.9, just behind Caleb Williams 88.2, Michael Penix 88.5 and CJ Stroud 91.1.

Are these stats really what you are using to trash Young with.

No, he is 25th amongst qualifying QBs.  Go check ESPN. 

and it's not just ONE stat for Bryce.  It's all the big production measures.  Every.  Single.  Season. 

If Bryce Young isn't below average.  Below average doesn't exist.  You are eliminating it lol. 

this is why people are forced into being haters.  It's denial of reality. 

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9 hours ago, cranky said:

Saying their numbers are below average because they have played injured is just making excuses that do not hold up. They did not play hurt. They played till they got hurt and then they didn't play - simple. 

Funny you failed to bring up Caleb Williams.

Mayfield is below Young in: comp % (63.4 vs 62.4), TD % (5.0 vs 4.9) and success rate (44.9 vs 44.1). He is not way above the average in any stat - none. Not even "a bunch".

And since you ask, Young is not only above average, but is the best QB on 4th downs. His passer rating on 4th downs is 156.3, ahead of Mahommes, Mays, Geoff, Allen, Hurts, Preskott, etc. Not only is it the best, but he also is near the top in attempts so it's not like he had one attempt and it worked.  Mayfield for comparison is anear the bottom on 4th downs with a rating of 30.1.

Another area Young is above average with is GWD and 4th qtr comebacks - since you asked.

 

so are you saying Bryce Young is indeed below average in every individual aspect a QB is in measured......but his 4th down completion % somehow trumps all of that? lmao.   Yeah, that's below average QB play. 

GWD is a team accomplishment.  Which is why Young is attached to some he didn't complete a pass in.