First 4 NFL starts - Tyler Shough

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

As you attempt to lose people in your lengthy posting….remember your initial disagreement was our RBs aren’t better.  And that’s a reference to our skills position players in the backfield.  We are just flat out better there.  And you are for some reason trying to manifest Rico into this injured player while trying to elevate a clearly down Kamara via some hot tub machine 

point remains, ask legit NFL fans if they would rather have the Panthers backfield in 2025 or the Saints.  It’s easily Carolina.  As most NFL fans arent playing gymnastics to try paint Bryce in a worse position than Shough.   

one team has a good rushing attack and on has weak rushing attack.   You can type 8,000 words and it won’t change that. 

If you say so

[Mr. Scot]

58 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Kamara isn't good this year. He isn't averaging even 4 ypc. 

Dante Pettis has one reception this year.

TMac has more yards. More TDs. higher YPA. More YAc than Olave. 

The Saints didn't get off to a good start this year (neither did we) but they're "peaking" at a good time to at least play spoiler.

Of course, it could be argued so are we.

(I'd feel a lot better saying that if we win this Sunday, though)

For now at least, the Saints are the only team in the division with a win over every other team. We have a chance to match that by season's end, and we'll need to if we really wanna make the playoffs.

As to the players:

I'd still say it's a little early to put Hubbard or Dowdle individually on a higher plane than Kamara (heaven knows i want them to be). Equal.isnt bad though.

As a two pronged attack, hell yeah... but when are we gonna see that?

Similar issue with Coker but he's getting back up to speed. Sure couldda used him in some earlier games.

Mind you, I compare Coker to Pettis based on their depth chart positions, but realistically Coker ought to be our #2.

(don't think too many would dispute that spot on our chart is basically a gaping black hole at the moment)

And of course, McMillan. Over the last few games he's had some drops and things that made me wonder if the proverbial rookie wall was hitting. The good news there though is that if it is, our bye week hit at just the right time.

The OL..yeah

Now all that said, if everyone gets healthy and we smooth out a couple of rough spots, this time next year it's quite possibly a very different conversation.

(one that'll make me, you and a lot of others here feel much more optimistic)

[Jackson113.2]

We going to have to figure out the pass rush situation.  Being 31 in sacks doesn't help. We won't go far if we can't figure it out. 

The one thing about this defensive system that aggravates me to no end. Panthers football takes pride in hitting the opposing teams Qb.

[CPantherKing]

Shough shows us all again that trading the franchise for a top QB in the draft is foolish. I thought Steve Bartkowski, Tony Eason, Jim Everett, Chris Miller, Jeff George, Ryan Leaf, Michael Vick, Trey Lance, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, and RG3 would teach fans how ineffective this approach is. Drafting a QB in the top 20 is foolish enough if they don't come with a rare pro sports pedigree.

[CRA]

Shough -75% for 272 today 

Young -62% for 162 today

the 2nd rounder can play.  Best QB on the field both games this season.  It is what it is. 

[AggieLean]

Some incredibly bad takes in here. Shough has shown once again that he is the better QB.

[Shocker]

He is probably better than anyone they can draft unfortunately