Give Legette another season?

[kungfoodude]

35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think it has as much to do with the college game as it does the NFL's current obsession with offensive efficiency and being terrified of turnovers. Dink and dunk passing relying on YAC throwing downfield just enough to keep the D honest has become the norm. And honestly, that's probably because bend but don't break D has become the norm. Defenses are willingly giving up the short stuff relying on being able to bow up when the field gets shorter.

 

High risk passing offenses has become anathema to the modern NFL doctrine.

That is why TO prone gunslingers are out of fashion in a big way.

[strato]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think it has as much to do with the college game as it does the NFL's current obsession with offensive efficiency and being terrified of turnovers. Dink and dunk passing relying on YAC throwing downfield just enough to keep the D honest has become the norm. And honestly, that's probably because bend but don't break D has become the norm. Defenses are willingly giving up the short stuff relying on being able to bow up when the field gets shorter.

 

Probably talking about two different things but I think they intersect at the point of backyard football with the shift to prioritizing athleticism. Because athleticism pays off without having to do the development. 
You see it in OTs when scouts don’t know how to assess their aptitude for the pro game. 10-15 years at least. And you see it in the QBs too. 
I think it goes with the overall thing in society where instant gratification trumps all these days. If you buy into that. 

[strato]

51 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

High risk passing offenses has become anathema to the modern NFL doctrine.

That is why TO prone gunslingers are out of fashion in a big way.

It’s like Billy Bean took his on base percentage to the NFL. Zzzz. Yes it might work but watching it in action is boring. 

[kungfoodude]

13 hours ago, strato said:

It’s like Billy Bean took his on base percentage to the NFL. Zzzz. Yes it might work but watching it in action is boring. 

I don't really agree. These eras have also featured the most average passing yardage in NFL history.

[PantherChris]

14 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

High risk passing offenses has become anathema to the modern NFL doctrine.

That is why TO prone gunslingers are out of fashion in a big way.

Honestly its led to a much more boring product 

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Honestly its led to a much more boring product 

See above post. I would disagree based on scoring and actual passing yardage.

The intent was more passing and more offense and it did work.

[strato]

15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't really agree. These eras have also featured the most average passing yardage in NFL history.

I am talking now. Did I miss something? Seems to me QB play is down too, outside of the exceptional players. I mean, an old guy can sit at home for 5 years and come right in and play. And plays better than a lot of them lol. 

[PantherChris]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

See above post. I would disagree based on scoring and actual passing yardage.

The intent was more passing and more offense and it did work.

Yes it led to more points, but it also has led to a less exciting game, especially for people who value defense 

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, strato said:

I am talking now. Did I miss something? Seems to me QB play is down too, outside of the exceptional players. I mean, an old guy can sit at home for 5 years and come right in and play. And plays better than a lot of them lol. 

Now in terms of? What is "now?"

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Yes it led to more points, but it also has led to a less exciting game, especially for people who value defense 

Okay, I think that's more so an opinion based on the results you want. Not invalid but I do think the league's goals were ultimately achieved.

[PleaseCutStewart]

Honestly forgot we had XL this game. Did he get a single target?

[Soul Rebel]

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Honestly forgot we had XL this game. Did he get a single target?

If you consider the rare offensive offsides penalty as a target, then yes.

Edited December 28, 2025 by Soul Rebel

[Jackie Lee]

Crazy when two number 1 picks are holding your mediocre underdog team back...To think we would have had a better chance of winning today if XL and Bryce weren't on the field is crazy. 

[strato]

 

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Now in terms of? What is "now?"

Current NFL?