to all the Low-T Betas crying about "do we want to win" / "we'll get embarrassed the next week"

[TLGPanthersFan]

6 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I'm also NOT defending Bryce.  

Just being honest about my Panthers. They are far from being the team I want them to be.

Am sure we can at least agree on the last sentence.  

With a better QB this is a playoff team not, whatever the heck we are right now. I mean 10+ wins.

[TLGPanthersFan]

1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

Another playmaker at receiver is needed. 

Starting Interior linebackers are needed. 

Another STARTING pass rusher is needed.

Another starting caliber RB is needed, assuming Rico won't be back. 

Thus doesn't mention the QB that tou stated, that most of you are convinced,  grow on trees. 

Yeah we need all that, but we need a QB if the offense is gonna actually be playoff worthy. Bryce will never be that QB. Going into 2026 with him as the de facto starter is beyond stupid. 
2026 should be about showing him his job is not safe. That is by bring in QBs that can potentially take his job. Not someone just to replace Dalton. FA, draft idc. We need QBs. 
QBs do grow on trees. You just have to hope you find a good Apple. 
Currently we have two bad apples on the team. It happens. 

[strato]

2 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Funny how you take a perspective that isn't your own, and take it somewhere that it never was. 

I know you dont give a fug. 

Off of that post you quoted, you seem confused. This is simple. Years of hearing excuses from Bryce Young fans have taken a toll. Like, that perspective that isn’t mine is fed up, doesn’t have room for more. So fug it, let’s just really make it perfect for him. Get him everything he could possibly want and then some. Let’s dump some more assets at the alter. Then get some 6’ and under beasts for his OL. So maybe he can see where he is throwing. Whatever it takes.  
 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by strato

[pantherclaw]

3 hours ago, strato said:

Off of that post you quoted, you seem confused. This is simple. Years of hearing excuses from Bryce Young fans have taken a toll. Like, that perspective that isn’t mine is fed up, doesn’t have room for more. So fug it, let’s just really make it perfect for him. Get him everything he could possibly want and then some. Let’s dump some more assets at the alter. Then get some 6’ and under beasts for his OL. So maybe he can see where he is throwing. Whatever it takes.  
 

 

I dont see anybody asking for anything to be perfect.  

[pantherclaw]

3 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Yeah we need all that, but we need a QB if the offense is gonna actually be playoff worthy. Bryce will never be that QB. Going into 2026 with him as the de facto starter is beyond stupid. 
2026 should be about showing him his job is not safe. That is by bring in QBs that can potentially take his job. Not someone just to replace Dalton. FA, draft idc. We need QBs. 
QBs do grow on trees. You just have to hope you find a good Apple. 
Currently we have two bad apples on the team. It happens. 

Man, how do you miss the fact I mentioned the QB position? 

Like, WTF. 

[TD alt]

14 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Yeah we need all that, but we need a QB if the offense is gonna actually be playoff worthy. Bryce will never be that QB. Going into 2026 with him as the de facto starter is beyond stupid. 
2026 should be about showing him his job is not safe. That is by bring in QBs that can potentially take his job. Not someone just to replace Dalton. FA, draft idc. We need QBs. 
QBs do grow on trees. You just have to hope you find a good Apple. 
Currently we have two bad apples on the team. It happens. 

 

14 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

With a better QB this is a playoff team not, whatever the heck we are right now. I mean 10+ wins.

I mean, this year we should've easily been a playoff team in my opinion. We should have easily had two or three more wins--at least one--had not Bryce crapped the bed. But let's be serious about human nature and what we know about our FO. I wouldn't bet the farm that Bryce will be anything but the defacto starter in 2026, because (inconsistent though it was) we have exceeded expectations this year, and some in the FO probably believe, rightly or wrongly, that Bryce is at the center of that. You know, piece of bread seems like a meal if all you've had is a cracker. That being said, Bryce has shown plenty of inconsistency if not a downright pattern of flaws. He's a third year QB, and some, if not most, of his metrics aren't pretty. It could be argued that he should be further along (for me it's not really arguable). So, hopefully the decision makers will acquire a couple of plan Bs.

I would hate it and love it if we identified "our guy" in the draft, and that it was somehow achievable to acquire him with a couple of high draft picks or even less. But we already pulled the trigger on Bryce with arguably awful results, so that's got to make the decision makers a little skittish to repeat a mistake that should be still fresh on everyone's mind. That being said, I think that it's more likely that we acquire a player like Mac Jones, Malik Willis or Trey Lance in free agency, and also target a day two or day three developmental pick in the draft with some real upside. That pick for would be Drew Allar who should slide to day three (I'm thinking). I think that this is more realistic than them releasing Bryce from his starter's role from the get-go, or someone just flat out playing themselves definitely into the starter's role by the time the season begins. 

Now, again, if we can find "our guy" that changes the narrative and is expected to be the starter from day one, I'd be excited, if not downright ecstatic, but I don't think that's a realistic expectation. 

Getting back to the team in general, If we don't make some improvements, including QB, I wouldn't bet that we'd necessarily be a playoff team next year, because, the rest of the NFCS is likely to improve next year. I don't expect that teams in our division will be necessarily able to "backdoor" themselves into the playoffs next season. So we're going to have to hit on at least a couple of picks, get healthy along the line, and fundamentally change the way we're calling plays because lightning probably isn't striking twice. I'm hoping that we'll have a real breakthrough season by 2028, because this season and next season aren't likely to be it because removing ball-and-chains ain't easy unless you got the key, and It's still gonna take some time to find it.