Wild Card QB Performance Rankings

[TD alt]

4 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

So easier to fabricate?

In a word, yes, if that's the way you look at it. Any time you start adjusting based on opponents, things get even murkier.

Edited January 14 by TD alt

[electro's horse]

Total QBR has a “clutch” adjustment that ESPN won’t give specifics on

Should tell you everything you need to know 

[frankw]

For reference here's Bryce's passer rating for the season and the peers amongst him in comparison. Not great company.

It certainly lines up with what I've seen with my own two eyes.

[mav1234]

19 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Which one of these QBs would you not immediately trade Bryce for if given the chance? how about that spin? Not including Rodgers of course.

Are we including their contracts? Haha. If so I'd add Lawrence and maaaaaybe Herbert to the list I wouldn't trade for (I'd probably still take Herbert lol).

I was happy with Bryce's performance and all but the op seems to think we should read more into it than I think we need to. 

[mav1234]

22 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

/glances at season stats 

I know... I'm curious what exactly the OP thinks this means. He had a decent game, as did a number of quarterbacks.  Not all of them won their games, heh.  Ultimately his season was pretty bad lol

[CarolinaRideorDie]

These stats don't mean anything. It doesn't correlate to winning the actual football game at all. Bryce played better than Caleb Williams according to stats but Willams won. Jordan Love played better than Bryce but lost. Everyone is so focused that one player makes the whole team. Yes the QB is the most important position, but there are 21 other guys who influence the game too. 

[Jackson113.2]

OP in real life..

Edited January 14 by Jackson113.2

[cranky]

The first 6 games of the season had TMac with 0 NFL experience and XL with his 54% catch rate as the number 1 and 2 receivers. They combined for 46/82 catches (56.1%), 539 yards (11.72 yds /rec ) and Young had 11 TDs and 8 TOs.

The last 6 games had a more experienced TMac and Coker as the number 1 and 2 receivers and they combined for 49/69 catches (71 %), 732 yards (14.94 yds/rec) and Young had 11 TD’s and only 3 TO’s. 

Some people around here believe a QBs’ performance works in a vacuum. It doesn’t. 

No doubt a lot of Young’s inconsistencies are his own fault but he has shown improvement since Coker returned and started getting more playing time. That with the fact TMac will have an entire year of experience means there should be a lot more games like Saturdays’ next year.

[Jackson113.2]

[Candler Cat]

Whimsical when someone starts a thread and self owns in the first post 

[strato]

37 minutes ago, Jackson113.2 said:

The Bryce curve in action. They root for the lil fella so hard.  
 

It isn’t that he didn’t play well, that just really seems inflated compared to some of these others. 

[h0llywood]

QBR is really indeed a weird metric.

Josh Allen's MVP season, his Pro Football Reference Approximate Value was 20 and they gave high QBR of 74.8 rating.

Cam Newton's MVP season, his Pro Football Reference Approximate Value was 21 and they gave him QBR of 61.4 rating.

[strato]

You guys understand that if we argue that the stat is wonky, worthless, non reality reflecting, anything like that, we are doing it because we hate Bryce.  Because we are haters, liars, biased, casuals, all kinds of stuff you don’t want to be called. 
 

I have never understood some of these stats. They don’t consistently reflect what I have watched. 
 

That graph with the 3rd down efficiency, absolutely lines up with what I saw this season, for example. This QB rating, the PFF stuff, not so much.  And certainly those non scientific grades from ESPN personalities.  

[thebdawg]

2 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

look over at QB Rating....His is the lowest.....not that hard to spin...

Now look at QBR, on the left buddy. The stat that isn’t just a box score lumped into one number.