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Is J-Stew a team propagandist?

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32 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Well, I did admit "Homer" was a better word. "Propaganda," on its face is not hyperbolic in this sense, nor is it necessarily a negative word. Only due to fairly recent events is there a fully negative connotation (which I also alluded to), so I don't know what to tell you.

@LinvilleGorge or any mod feel free to change the term. Thanks.

Lol. Propoganda has been a charged word for well over 100 years. Are you a vampire?

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J-Stew is an ex-panther who is a huge fan of the team and also on the pay role.  He also knows these guys personally.

Is it good marketing?  Propaganda? An opinion?  His argument in a court of law?

I think the real question is what the fug does it matter?

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Well, I did admit "Homer" was a better word. "Propaganda," on its face is not hyperbolic in this sense, nor is it necessarily a negative word. Only due to fairly recent events is there a fully negative connotation (which I also alluded to), so I don't know what to tell you.

@LinvilleGorge or any mod feel free to change the term. Thanks.

I don’t know about the word itself, but people use propaganda as a tool through they can obtain political power. 
 

People that do propaganda suck.
 

 Stew is biased. He isn’t twisting facts lobbying and trying to fool people, he just has an opinion.  I would maybe call him a somewhat of a shill though, when he minimizes negatives to paint the organization in the most positive light he can.
 

He is being paid by the team. 
Also, he knows the players personally. 
You aren’t gonna get any controversial negatives out of him publicly.  

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58 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Lol. Propoganda has been a charged word for well over 100 years. Are you a vampire?

Even if you're somewhat correct--not totally--it's still not hyperbole.

7 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

J-Stew is an ex-panther who is a huge fan of the team and also on the pay role.  He also knows these guys personally.

Is it good marketing?  Propaganda? An opinion?  His argument in a court of law?

I think the real question is what the fug does it matter?

I mean, why does any of this stuff matter? Just something to shoot the sh¡t about.

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5 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Even if you're somewhat correct--not totally--it's still not hyperbole.

I mean, why does any of this stuff matter? Just something to shoot the sh¡t about.

Propaganda is the direct implication that this is he being used by the Panthers to spout a message.

This is a poor example of that, in my estimation. He is far more likely to just be a homer. This isn't abnormal behavior from him.

It's hyperbolic because you are spinning it as some greater thing from Panthers HQ, which is very likely is not. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Propaganda is the direct implication that this is he being used by the Panthers to spout a message.

This is a poor example of that, in my estimation. He is far more likely to just be a homer. This isn't abnormal behavior from him.

It's hyperbolic because you are spinning it as some greater thing from Panthers HQ, which is very likely is not. 

You realize that it doesn't have to come from the Panthers HQ to be spin? If you live and breath something---basically drink the Kool aid---espousing the company line can come natural.

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27 minutes ago, TD alt said:

You realize that it doesn't have to come from the Panthers HQ to be spin? If you live and breath something---basically drink the Kool aid---espousing the company line can come natural.

I don't know if I've every heard someone use the word, "Propaganda" and not mean it in a negative context.  The same goes for phrases like "agents of the organization" or "drinking the kool-aid".

Even if you're not, it comes across as negative and insulting to Stew.  He's never been the type of person to be critical of individuals.  Just not his style.  Doesn't mean he's trying to pull a fast one, mislead you, or outright lying.

Should employees of the Panthers be objective when interacting with fans?  Is that even reasonable?

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1 hour ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I don't know if I've every heard someone use the word, "Propaganda" and not mean it in a negative context.  The same goes for phrases like "agents of the organization" or "drinking the kool-aid".

Even if you're not, it comes across as negative and insulting to Stew.  He's never been the type of person to be critical of individuals.  Just not his style.  Doesn't mean he's trying to pull a fast one, mislead you, or outright lying.

Should employees of the Panthers be objective when interacting with fans?  Is that even reasonable?

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2 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I don't know if I've every heard someone use the word, "Propaganda" and not mean it in a negative context.  The same goes for phrases like "agents of the organization" or "drinking the kool-aid".

Even if you're not, it comes across as negative and insulting to Stew.  He's never been the type of person to be critical of individuals.  Just not his style.  Doesn't mean he's trying to pull a fast one, mislead you, or outright lying.

Should employees of the Panthers be objective when interacting with fans?  Is that even reasonable?

Some of you are reading way too much into this. I've already said that "Homer" was a better choice of word. Agent of an organization is just that. Nothing inherently wrong with that. And, yes, Stew is obviously drinking the Kool-Aid. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. He loves his team even to the point of being a homer. There's nothing inherently wrong with that either. I said that I thought that it was way too early to declare Bryce the long term starter based upon his body of work, and that's what I meant. From what I've gathered from comments here, Stew has a Pollyanna attitude when it comes to the team. Noted. I'll just take that into account when he's discussing the team. 

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Good grief, you'd think that I called the man a traitorous mole sent to infiltrate the fans and manipulate our minds by chicanery. 

This might be the last time I start a thread before the crack of dawn. I guess a I'll have to have my caffeine next time.

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He definitely skews positive but when things get very bad he actually points it out on the one podcast I watch with him and the media dude i forget the name of. They both got pretty upset when we lost to the saints both times iirc. 

Although the closest he's really ever gotten to criticizing bryce was "we can't really do anything about him as our qb" lol

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