Diego Pavia measures 5'9" at the Senior Bowl

[frankw]

Our QB is realistically 5'9 and 180 soaking wet and we traded the farm for him so we really aren't in much of a position to judge.

[strato]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Our QB is realistically 5'9 and 180 soaking wet and we traded the farm for him so we really aren't in much of a position to judge.

Lol I would say that puts us in the perfect position to judge. 

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

Lol I would say that puts us in the perfect position to judge. 

Well realistically if you're going to gamble on a phsyical outlier WR would be the position to do that. Not your most important player on the field.

[HeelsPanthersCanes]

14 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

He 100% wins a fair qb competition against Bryce. 

Literally the only thing he does better than Bryce is the ability to absorb contact.  But that's not a real trait in the NFL like it is in college, see Jaxson Dart.

Pavia will be out of the NFL within 2 years to either run a record label or serve a prison sentence.

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

 

 

run a record label or serve a prison sentence.

This isn’t an either/or

[strato]

19 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well realistically if you're going to gamble on a phsyical outlier WR would be the position to do that. Not your most important player on the field.

I guess I missed something. I thought we were talking about a QB. 
Obviously as huge Smitty fan I have no issue with a small WR. 

[PantherChris]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Swimmers are tall and wide. The best crossfitters I ever knew were brothers who former division one swimmers, one all NCAA while at Georgia tech. Nothing but shoulders. Rob, the younger one, could hook grip an axel bar his hands were so huge.

I grow up swimming at MAC with a bunch of people that ended up winning medals and they were all six feet in middle school. Tall and lanky sure but they were big.

Katie ledecky is six foot. I swam with Stacy rademacher who was on one of the Olympic relay teams and she was easily over six feet in high school. 

I stand corrected, high school swimmers then lik 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, strato said:

I guess I missed something. I thought we were talking about a QB. 
Obviously as huge Smitty fan I have no issue with a small WR. 

Gambling on lack of size and measurables has been common place for years now. But what I'm saying is generally it has been limited to receivers.

Right but who in the NFL would even consider drafting this kid as a QB in the first two rounds if at all?

And how good could he have looked at times playing at Alabama with the winningest coach in modern college football history? Do you think it would have raised his draft profile?

We should reconcile with the fact that we have become the gopher for the rest of the league thanks to the trade up for Bryce Young. We took the massive L so no one else will have to even remotely consider it for many years to come.

[PantherChris]

1 hour ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

I said "give him a jersey under any circumstance." 

Meaning OTA shorts, training camp mesh, QB red, or any team issued gear that would associate that loser with this franchise at any point of the cycle.

There is absolutely nothing good, for any franchise, to have that piece of poo in your building. 

Yea dudes got some screws lose 

[PantherChris]

20 minutes ago, frankw said:

Gambling on lack of size and measurables has been common place for years now. But what I'm saying is generally it has been limited to receivers.

Right but who in the NFL would even consider drafting this kid as a QB in the first two rounds if at all?

And how good could he have looked at times playing at Alabama with the winningest coach in modern college football history? Do you think it would have raised his draft profile?

We should reconcile with the fact that we have become the gopher for the rest of the league thanks to the trade up for Bryce Young. We took the massive L so no one else will have to even remotely consider it for many years to come.

I mean if it had been some prototype QB like Hertbet or a freak like Allen/Newton that trade would be worth our first rounder would have given us the choice of Maye/Daniels/Williams  the starters in this SB are really hard to stomach.... especially because I'm pretty sure Darnold is about to become a super bowl winning QB

[MHS831]

5 hours ago, NAS said:

We should draft him to be our backup, would fit the scheme perfectly haha

Our QBs would be too short to ride the roller coasters at Carowinds.

[frankw]

10 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

I mean if it had been some prototype QB like Hertbet or a freak like Allen/Newton that trade would be worth our first rounder would have given us the choice of Maye/Daniels/Williams  the starters in this SB are really hard to stomach.... especially because I'm pretty sure Darnold is about to become a super bowl winning QB

Well weren't many people fairly low on the 2024 QB class? Maybe the 2027 class will be the one. As far as the 2026 Panthers and Bryce Young goes we either need to look really good or really bad. Hoping for other teams to fail or win for us because we can't handle business on our own is just mediocrity and will only serve as an excuse for our front office to continue doubling down on Bryce.

[strato]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Gambling on lack of size and measurables has been common place for years now. But what I'm saying is generally it has been limited to receivers.

Right but who in the NFL would even consider drafting this kid as a QB in the first two rounds if at all?

And how good could he have looked at times playing at Alabama with the winningest coach in modern college football history? Do you think it would have raised his draft profile?

We should reconcile with the fact that we have become the gopher for the rest of the league thanks to the trade up for Bryce Young. We took the massive L so no one else will have to even remotely consider it for many years to come.

And they shouldn’t. You can’t tell me that a number of teams would not have had Bryce on their board strictly because of his physical stature. For sure not for day 1. 
It is a big man’s game.  As they say. I never took him seriously as a possibility until the team forced me to. 

Bryce has at times, a couple or three, done better than I ever thought he would. He hasn’t sustained it though.  Because it’s fuging hard. He did a very good job in the playoffs against the Rams. But that was actually what told me they probably were not gonna win that game yesterday. What did he do against Seattle? Rams just aren’t that strong defensively. 

As far as small guys I do think a Smitty lite is what this offense could really use. I dare not hope for a 1 to 1 Smitty comp, we couldn’t get that lucky, but someone in his mold would really complement this WR bunch. 
 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

6 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

These 2 aren't 3 lbs different. No way in hell. 

205 vs 170