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Finally! Draft day is here. (NFL Draft Round 1 Live thread)

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24 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I said if he was their BPA, then he was the right pick. But I don't agree that he was BPA or would have the greatest impact this season. Not agreeing is not the same as not believing. 

He wasn't BPA. He won't have the greatest impact this season. Still could have been the right pick. 

As far as instant impact, you're likely 100 percent correct, but I disagree with you about BPA because it's at least arguable that Freeling was the BPA. You're going to be hard pressed to find a whole lot of analysts that thought Thieneman was the BPA over Freeling, all you have to do is look at big boards. Now, Lemon? That's more questionable, but...as you know, many here didn't want us to use the pick on a receiver. Their minds and thoughts were squarely inside the box. Analysts were susceptible to that as well. All that being said, it still won't surprise me if Freeling turns out the better player at his position than Lemon will as a receiver. That won't surprise me at all, and it may not take as long as some people think. But yeah, Lemon will likely make the more immediate impact, and it won't be close.

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Maybe a fantasy but not an impossibility. Someone needs a OT mid season and we have a cheap Rasheed Walker and inside scoop on Christensen being healthy enough to be a backup by then.

 

Probably a stretch but not crazy. OT is never something you can have too much of. Serviceable OT are like gold or old Tacomas

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1 hour ago, csx said:

Maybe a fantasy but not an impossibility. Someone needs a OT mid season and we have a cheap Rasheed Walker and inside scoop on Christensen being healthy enough to be a backup by then.

Speaking of Christensen, does anyone know his status heading into training camp?

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As much as I would like to go ILB I think you have to heavily consider Delp or one of the other best available wide receivers too. We don't need to get panicky and desperate trying to trade up. Just let the chips fall where they may.

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10 hours ago, t96 said:

Lmao the only inferior team they were ever knocked out by was the Rags. Panthers and Lightning won cups, when we lost to Boston they were the top team in the east. We’d kill for the Panthers to make the playoffs and win at least one game every year for 7 straight years. Canes are an incredible franchise right now 

I just trolling LOL. I don't really follow hockey. I take a little interest when the playoffs start. And yes by far the most successful Pro Sport franchise in the Carolinas. 

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8 hours ago, csx said:

Freeling had higher grades than Thieneman most everywhere.  There were a few that didnt. But we're talking OT vs safety and the team doesn't use lists made by media outlets. They make their own.

Exactly. 

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Where do you get he won't start? Did you see his INTERVIEW? He prefers LT but give him two weeks and he can handle RT.  There is nothing written that Walker is guaranteed to start LT. And God knows someone goes down with an injury. 

You're correct it's not glamorous but by most people that grade these people. He was BPA. 

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5 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Exactly. 

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Where do you get he won't start? Did you see his INTERVIEW? He prefers LT but give him two weeks and he can handle RT.  There is nothing written that Walker is guaranteed to start LT. And God knows someone goes down with an injury. 

You're correct it's not glamorous but by most people that grade these people. He was BPA. 

Haven't seen the interview. I just don't have a lot of faith in him beating out Walker or Moton as a rookie. He'll play but I'm not sure he'll start. If Makai Lemon wasn't available I wouldn't have as much of an issue with the pick. Makai would likely be a 700+ yards receiver as a rookie here, and be the explosive playmaker we've needed since trading DJ Moore. He would start day 1. No contingencies. And what if TMac or Coker go down for any extended period of time? We'd be counting on Metchie to step up big time. This receiving group is not as good as some give it credit to be. There's a real lack of a speed and elusive factor. 

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3 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Haven't seen the interview. I just don't have a lot of faith in him beating out Walker or Moton as a rookie. He'll play but I'm not sure he'll start. If Makai Lemon wasn't available I wouldn't have as much of an issue with the pick. Makai would likely be a 700+ yards receiver as a rookie here, and be the explosive playmaker we've needed since trading DJ Moore. He would start day 1. No contingencies. And what if TMac or Coker go down for any extended period of time? We'd be counting on Metchie to step up big time. This receiving group is not as good as some give it credit to be. There's a real lack of a speed and elusive factor. 

I'm sorry but you don't use a first round pick on a WR3. Talk about a player not playing that much.  We also have Treymayne and Horn Jr. Who will have a year under their belt. 

It was the right pick. Not a glamorous pick but the right one. We'll just have to agree on NAVY FOOTBALL. 

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1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I'm sorry but you don't use a first round pick on a WR3. Talk about a player not playing that much.  We also have Treymayne and Horn Jr. Who will have a year under their belt. 

It was the right pick. Not a glamorous pick but the right one. We'll just have to agree on NAVY FOOTBALL. 

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10 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Lemon and possibly Thieneman were higher rated and at positions of need also. 

More highly rated by who?  The Media or some analyst?  

Morgan said that they thought the guy we picked was our most highest rated player left on the board.  While it remains to be seen if they were right, the team's ratings are the only ones that matter when the pick is made.

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