Lockout now official

[Mr. Scot]

Per various sources, the NFL has officially locked out the players.

(you may now test the effectiveness of the board filters by spewing profanity laden rants)

[Dpantherman]

poo. nope still works

[Jangler]

[Matt Moore]

[Panthercougar68]

[Jangler]

oh look a matt moore sighting and a one star....hhhhmmmm

[Matt Moore]

oh look a matt moore sighting and a one star....hhhhmmmm

didn't take your medications today, eh?

[blackcatgrowl]

Last week, when the NFLPA won their court battle , I had a feeling no level of discussions were going to get a deal done.

The two sides have been hostile for over a year now. And not coming to the table until a couple weeks before the CBA expired sent a signal to me the NFLPA wasn't serious about resolving the issue through negotiation, but through litigation.

Funny thing is, they're GOING to lose. We live in a land of corporate corruption. They owners have the gold, so they're going to eventually make the rules. Make no mistake, the owner's will lose too, but not as much as the players. In the end though, the fans will lose the most.

There's nothing good about any of this.

So here's an official "Go *** yourself!" to DeMaurice Smith. And an official "You suck donkey nuts" to Rodger Goodell. The one's agenda, and the other's weakness, has already affected something I'm passionate about in the negative, and could possibly damage it permanently.

[OnlyPantherFaninMaine]

Not going to lie I haven't been keeping up on the labor negotiations like I should have, does this mean the season is 100% not going to happen? Or can something still occur to keep the NFL going?

Forgive me :D

[Stumpy]

Not going to lie I haven't been keeping up on the labor negotiations like I should have, does this mean the season is 100% not going to happen? Or can something still occur to keep the NFL going?

Forgive me :D

Nothing decided on the season yet. This whole thing is now going to play out in federal courtrooms. If you know anything about activist judges and government bureaucracy, you can probably guess how this is going to go.

HINT: Long, drawn-out and not good for the owners.

[blackcatgrowl]

Not going to lie I haven't been keeping up on the labor negotiations like I should have, does this mean the season is 100% not going to happen? Or can something still occur to keep the NFL going?

Forgive me :D

From what's been said in other threads, the best case scenario is that the NFLPA sues the NFL for Anti-Trust, the judge in the case blocks the lockout and reinstates the old CBA while this is litigated.

The second possiblity is that the judges side with the NFL and allow for the enforcement of non-union employment laws on the players. In which case, the NFL will hand them the deal of their own choosing and tell the dissenters to apply at McDonalds, and GTFO.

There's a third, darker possibility too....

Keep in mind, the owners are talking about "Taking back their league". If the NFLPA wins every battle, and this doesn't get expedited through the appeals process and stalls in lower courts, there is a real possibility they will dissolve the league, create a "minor league" out of the smaller market clubs, and reform under a new brand with new players.

[Chimera]

..and tyrell sutton has to pour his own patron. poor guy.

TSutt22 Tyrell Sutton

Ges I gotta drink patron n learn to pour my own shot since I cant drink the fancy 1800 where the top is a shot glass. Thx #lockout

[Marguide]

This has to get done through negotiations. I know that's the owner's line, but its true. The legal stuff is for leverage at the negotiating table.

A judge or a US senator are not going to solve this. It has to be the players and owners working together.

[BlacknBlueBoy]

So does this change anyone's opinion of who we should draft?

I know what I did my first year out of college, with no structure and total freedom. It wasn't productive. A lot of these guys will be without coaches and structured disciplinarians for the first time ever. Does that effect who you take in the first round?

Is Cam Newton just as much of a possibility for all of you Newton fans knowing Andrew Luck could very likely be an option next year?

Do you trust a sub 300 pound D lineman to be ready to contribute just as strongly after a year on the coach?

For me it seems all the more reason to take a "no questions on character" guy like Peterson?

Or is it all the more reason to trade down and get the guys you are confident will be ready in 2012?