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Schefter: Players won't negotiate

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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thunderraiden Veteran

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For me, I felt that months ago if this thing got as close as it did last friday it was going to come to an end with the league backtracking to the middle ground of what they asked for. Thats obviously how you treat these things. I also felt months ago, before I learned how much of douche DeMaurice Smith was, that the players had to know, if they let any bit of a lockout happen, they would lose far more getting it negotiated at the end of August, than if they just took the pay cut from 60% revenue to 50% revenue. Besides, its not the current players that would profit out of a deal in their favor much anyways, its the kids playing high school now.

Sadly, thats not what happened. What did happen that I predicted is that the NFL would show financial statements and the players would ignore it just like every other player union has EVER done in the history of CBA negotiations when the owning party opens up their books.

Yea players, it sucks you have to pay for new stadiums, but the revenue within the league will eventually stagnate when no one comes to games because the stadium is condemned, and the only places getting new stadiums are the cities where the citizens have to pay ridiculous taxes on it. It's either that or no more salary cap. The current economic plan in the NFL just doesn't stimulate growth for smaller market teams. Awesome if there are only 10 teams in the biggest markets, each taking turns winning the Championship, buts that's just not how it works.

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mountainpantherfan Newbie

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I don't think all the players are as together as most think. Feely and Brees are spouting conflicting reports already.

Here's my take. The players at the top of the pay scale, Brees, Brady and Manning, they are continuing to push for the Gene Upshaw mindset that the players never give back an inch once it was given. The top end players want to keep that percentage where it was at with the previous CBA and feel that the courts is the only way keep that number the same. Negociating will only lower the number.

So why are they pushing so hard? Because if you haven't noticed the salary cap increases by a lot each year but the Vet min and the salary min in general they stay the same unless renegociated through an update to the CBA. The players want to continue to say that the owners are trying to cut their pay. That isn't the truth. Under the original offer by the NFL of 45% the players as a whole would have continued to make more money in 2011 than in 2010.

So why is the NFLPA so against a renegociation? Because the big stars want the biggest of raises.

Sooner or later I think the 70% at the bottom of the pay scale are going to break from the 30% at the top.

This isn't like the situation in 93 with Reggie White. The players are not fighting agaisnt what was very apparent unfair labor issues. And the end result will not benefit the entire work force the same way it did in 93.

And for the record I agree that the owners shouldn't have put themselves in this position in the first place and they should bare some of the blame.

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Skew Newbie

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When I heard the NFL had offered a 'meet you halfway' deal on revenue sharing, I really thought the deal would get done.

When the players walked away without so much as a counter offer, my heart sunk :(

For the record, the owners didn't really "meet them half way", that was their story. But they did make an offer and the players reps did walk away without trying to counter-offer or negotiate.

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vorbis Community Regular

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like it or not, the media are playing a massive role in the negotiations. the rhetoric from representatives from the players and the league sounds eerily similar to boring, cheap potshots in a political campaign. fans are hungry for any news so they gobble up all the talking points and toss them around like a beach ball at a baseball game. all the while, nothing is accomplished and both sides wait for public opinion to push them to the finish line. total garbage.

in my perfect world ESPN and talk radio would shut up for two weeks and let the two sides in this disagreement fight amongst themselves. i bet the battle wouldn't drag on for months if that was the case. why should it? but that's not going to happen.

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communist Newbie

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Do you think if players cut their salaries in half over even 75% that would result in a lowering of your ticket price?

sure that this wont happen...but if you dont see any coincidence between doubled salaries and doubled ticket prices, i cant help you.

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JawnyBlaze Grand Master

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I hate Florio as much as the next guy, but I gotta give him credit in this whole CBA fiasco, his lawyer background is helping him in this topic. Usually, I start reading an article at PFT that seems interesting (without first looking at who the author is) and I can tell within the first paragraph if it was Florio or one of the other guys. If it's Florio I'll stop right there. However I've been reading his articles on the CBA and enjoying them as much as one could enjoy something like that.

FYI: Florio ripped "Schefter's source" a new one over on PFT.
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MadHatter Rookie

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Lawyers also tend to convince clients that it is in their best interest to go to Court and that they have a strong case, when really it is in the lawyer's best interest to go to Court.

100% accurate.....the only people who typically win by taking it to court are the lawyers.

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