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http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2010/tim-tebows-2007-stats-vs-cam-newtons-2010-stats/

Let’s do a final comparison of Cam Newton’s current season’s numbers versus the Heisman season of The Golden Calf of Bristol in 2007. The results might surprise you.

Touchdown Totals

Cam Newton in 13 games put up 28 passing TDs, 20 rushing TDs and 1 receiving TD for a total of 49 touchdowns

The Golden Calf of Bristol in 12 games put up 32 passing TDs, 23 rushing TDs for a total of 55 touchdowns

Truly an astonishing total of touchdowns in 2007 for The Golden Calf of Bristol – Cam Newton got the extra game with the SEC Championship Game against South Carolina.

Rushing Yards

Cam Newton: 1409 total yards on the ground or 108.4 yards/game

The Golden Calf of Bristol: 895 total yards on the ground or 68.8 yards/game

This is where Cam Newton overtook The Golden Calf of Bristol – the yardage on the ground.

Passing Yards

Cam Newton: 2589 total passing yards or 199.2 yards/game

The Golden Calf of Bristol: 3286 total passing yards or 252.8 yards/game

Total Yards

Cam Newton: 307.5 yards/game

The Golden Calf of Bristol: 321.6 yards/game

The Golden Calf of Bristol shines in passing yards and total yards per game.

As incredible as Cam Newton’s 2010 season has been, you have to agree that The Golden Calf of Bristol’s year was even better back in 2007. He had more touchdowns in fewer games and more total yards per game than Cam Newton.

With that said, Cam Newton’s team went undefeated and The Golden Calf of Bristol’s lost several games that year. However, on an individual statistical basis, The Golden Calf of Bristol in 2007 wins out.

Serious question. If we wanted a The Golden Calf of Bristol type player, then why didn't we take him in the 2nd round last year?

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Serious question. If we wanted a The Golden Calf of Bristol type player, then why didn't we take him in the 2nd round last year?

Not really wanting Newton, but it's a different situation this year. We had the coach last year that has stated his desire for starting a different QB over The Golden Calf of Bristol this year. That pretty much says it all.

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OK, my problem here is this. Did The Golden Calf of Bristol have more pass attempts in 2007 than did Newton? If so, then the passing yardage is a moot-point. If not, then yes, The Golden Calf of Bristol had a better year. Also, he had a better supporting cast (all-around that is). So, taken all of those into account, I think he had as good a year as The Golden Calf of Bristol had, if not better, simply based on his supporting cast as compared to The Golden Calf of Bristol's.

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Not really wanting Newton, but it's a different situation this year. We had the coach last year that has stated his desire for starting a different QB over The Golden Calf of Bristol this year. That pretty much says it all.

We drafted 2 QBs in the 2nd round, even though Armanti isn't slotted as a QB and we knew Fox was gone in late 2009 when his contract wasn't extended, not to mention The Golden Calf of Bristol could have sat behind Moore until Moore got injured.

I know that Weiss and Davidson had a great deal to do with the Clausen pick, but it just really sucks that we are debating taking Newton who is not statistically or obviously better than The Golden Calf of Bristol. Newton was The Golden Calf of Bristol's backup for 2 years and had to leave Florida to get a starting job.

I don't want to draft Newton or any other Qb with the #1 pick, but this information makes it even tougher, when you realize that The Golden Calf of Bristol could have been had for a 2nd round pick and Newton may actually go #1 overall? That's just insane to me. The Golden Calf of Bristol proved 10 times as much in college.

Edit...got it...The Golden Calf of Bristol went 25th...ok.

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pointless.....

The Golden Calf of Bristol is one of the greatest college football players of alltime (not just QBs).

You do a The Golden Calf of Bristol comparison in college w/ Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck and The Golden Calf of Bristol is going to beat them. Not sure what the point of this comparison shows?

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We drafted 2 QBs in the 2nd round, even though Armanti isn't slotted as a QB and we knew Fox was gone in late 2009 when his contract wasn't extended, not to mention The Golden Calf of Bristol could have sat behind Moore until Moore got injured.

I know that Weiss and Davidson had a great deal to do with the Clausen pick, but it just really sucks that we are debating taking Newton who is not statistically or obviously better than The Golden Calf of Bristol. Newton was The Golden Calf of Bristol's backup for 2 years and had to leave Florida to get a starting job.

I don't want to draft Newton or any other Qb with the #1 pick, but this information makes it even tougher, when you realize that The Golden Calf of Bristol could have been had for a 2nd round pick and Newton may actually go #1 overall? That's just insane to me. The Golden Calf of Bristol proved 10 times as much in college.

and has others pointed out, The Golden Calf of Bristol was taken in the first round

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Ok.

So The Golden Calf of Bristol goes 25th and Newton may go 1st. Let's redirect the debate.

If The Golden Calf of Bristol is the better QB (Florida believe so and stats say so), then why would we take Newton with the 1st pick in the draft? It's really crazy to me.

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