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guarantee the panthers WILL DRAFT Cam Newton

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This is one thing that I have been immensely amused by through this whole "process," if you will. "Nobody is going to trade up for the #1!" But, "we have to take Newton because he is a once in a lifetime prospect!"

If you feel that Cam is going to be a franchise QB, then you must admit that teams will be willing to trade up for him.

Conversely, if you think think that Cam is garbage, you must accept the fact that trading down is not an option.

By that logic no player since 2001 has been worth trading up for. There have been quite a few 'franchise' players over the years and nobody has chosen to trade up to take them. Most teams picking 1st are always open to trading down, but very few get legit offers.

Matt Ryan was that type of QB in '08 and yet the Dolphins - try as they might - couldn't convince another team to trade up to grab the guy. In the end, their mistake was not taking him themselves and instead going for the "safe" pick in Jake Long.

Not a bad pick, to be sure. A Pro Bowl left tackle never is, but there aren't many people around the league - likely including the Dolphins themselves - who wouldn't take Ryan if they had it to do all over again.

Matt Stafford was another franchise-caliber QB that nobody traded up for. Carson Palmer in '03 was viewed the same way. The fact is most teams simply are unwilling to give up the picks it takes to move up and take a player that will require that kind of contract.

This may change once the wage scale is put in place, but nobody knows what's happening with that right now (or anything else) so the prospects of a trade happening this year of all years when one hasn't happened in a decade, is a bit slim, no matter how good the player in question may be.

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you think the carolina panthers are going to throw a first ever draft party at the stadium with free entry, and free tours of the whole stadium, including the locker rooms and other places the fans dont get to see, and have everybody there to pick somebody other than Cam Newton? They aren't going to trade down but they will get back into the 2nd round somehow that is obvious since hurney has made a draft day trade every year he has been here. the panthers arent setting up this huge,free draft day party on a thursday of the draft to pick marcel or peterson or green or fairley or gabbert. regardless of whether you like the pick or not, CAM NEWTON is going # 1 overall

Unless your name is Marty Hurney or Jerry Richardson there is NO WAY you can guarantee that we are drafting Newton.

I Can Guanantee you I will be Happy if we DRAFT NEWTON

The draft party was not set up by the Football Operations Department so that would contradict your guarantee.

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Unless your name is Marty Hurney or Jerry Richardson there is NO WAY you can guarantee that we are drafting Newton.

I Can Guanantee you I will be Happy if we DRAFT NEWTON

The draft party was not set up by the Football Operations Department so that would contradict your guarantee.

Huh? Who set it up??

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This may change once the wage scale is put in place, but nobody knows what's happening with that right now (or anything else) so the prospects of a trade happening this year of all years when one hasn't happened in a decade, is a bit slim, no matter how good the player in question may be.

By all accounts, the wage scale will be a part of the new CBA. Both parties want it. And, until there is a new CBA we can't sign draft picks. So, more than likely, this years prospects will be subject to a wage scale.

My point was that if someone is a can't miss prospect, they are worth trading up for. If we had traded up for the QBs you named, we probably wouldn't be in this situation right now.

The bottom line is the number one pick is worth what we say it is. We hold the pick, if we feel Cam is going to be a franchise QB, it will be worth a kings ransom. If we feel that the top 5 guys are on the same level, then it may be worth no more than adding a second round pick.

All that said, if Newton is truly a "can't miss prospect," he is worth the world. I'm sure that if most teams could go back, they would have given up their entire drafts to get Peyton. But, If he is that good, then we would never trade the pick.

None of this was aimed at the majority of fans. Most "huggers" on here think that Cam is the best QB, therefore we need to take him because we have jackpoo at QB. That is a perfectly logical conclusion. My post was aimed at the ones who say that Newton is going to change the game, GOAT, first ballot HOFer but no one will trade up with us.

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People actually think Marty Hurney factors a fan draft party into his thinking about what to do in the draft?

That's the dumbest thing to come down the pike in a while.

Hurney will do what he thinks is best. He doesn't give a flying rep about whether fans at the party will cheer or not.

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