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What will it take for our offense to succeed?

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Sort of moving away from it.

We had a Coryell offense under Fox when Dan Henning was the coordinator. We're moving back to that kind of attack.

Davidson was a student of Charlie Weis. Weis had some Coryell influence (serving under Ray Perkins) and there are similarities in the systems, but what Davidson ran wasn't quite the same as what Henning did.

By Foxball I meant not only a type of system but also the refusal to adapt his offense to counter what opposing defenses were bringing to the table.

I don't know the actual stats and I may be wrong in my assumption. Last year though, it felt like how we started the game, in terms of play calling, defenses would adapt, stop us cold, yet, we'd do nothing different. Nothing to change things up.

Granted, that probably had a lot to do with the inexperience we had at the qb position, but still.

The '09 Bucs were in a similar situation, qb wise, all were playing downright horrible, at least the HC tried switching things up and letting his young qb attempt to throw more than two times in a row before dialing up like 10 run plays in a row.

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By Foxball I meant not only a type of system but also the refusal to adapt his offense to counter what opposing defenses were bringing to the table.

I don't know the actual stats and I may be wrong in my assumption. Last year though, it felt like how we started the game, in terms of play calling, defenses would adapt, stop us cold, yet, we'd do nothing different. Nothing to change things up.

Granted, that probably had a lot to do with the inexperience we had at the qb position, but still.

The '09 Bucs were in a similar situation, qb wise, all were playing downright horrible, at least the HC tried switching things up and letting his young qb attempt to throw more than two times in a row before dialing up like 10 run plays in a row.

As far as the failure to adapt, that part you're correct about.

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I dont think he would have problem with learning a new offense. He's a seasoned vet. I think he just didn't have much to work with in Washington. He still can throw deep with accuracy. I'd go with Palmer based off of his past success which isnt really a good thing to do. His last game against us makes him the last choice of QB's on my list.

If we draft Newton I cant see the Panthers making a spending alot of money on a McNabb.or Palmer.

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I think a qb is just a piece of the puzzle.I think a guard can be drafted or picked up.My position of trepadation is the OT.We have a first rd pick tied up with Otah but he has not seen the field in some time and I havent a clue what his outlook is.The best way to make a medicore qb work is a great OL.A tackle is hard to find and would there be anyone availible in the third that could come in and start.

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IDK if that is such a good idea. McNabb has used the race card too many times for my liking.

If he can do for Cam what he helped do for Vick making him more balanced I am all for it.

What will it take? better play calling that's not outdated & ugh a Winner behind center maybe that's not average...

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If he can do for Cam what he helped do for Vick making him more balanced I am all for it.

What will it take? better play calling that's not outdated & ugh a Winner behind center maybe that's not average...

I like McNabb and if we could get him at a good price I could survive with it. But you are right he would probably be the best mentor around for Newton and Newton would not have to rush into the position.

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I honestly think all we need is solid QB play with support from the coaching staff. Even with Davidson's horrid playcalling we were top 10 in offense in 08 right?

The only real losses we've suffered on offense since then was Moose and Keydrick Vincent. Vincent was solid, but not a key part of the puzzle. Moose was great and all, but I think the two youngsters can just about fill the shoes of his 17 year vet days. If we get solid QB play and coaches that actually care about winning we can be a top offense again quickly.

If we're going Cam (like I think we probably are) we can expect to NOT have an exciting year this year. Maybe a small measure of success at best, but realistically playoffs are probably wishful thinking. The NEXT year we can expect Beast Mode Offense if Cam's attitude and work ethic are how they seem.

Someone else made the point in another thread, and I agree with it. If we get Cam, we can probably expect something along the lines of what the Bucs went through the past two years (maybe a slightly better year 1, the Panthers are nowhere near as devoid of talent as the Bucs were in 09).

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