Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Newton only similar to one successful QB in last 5 years..


TheRealDeal

Recommended Posts

Newton comes from an offense that doesn't translate well to the NFL. I recently studied 20 quarterbacks I consider models for NFL success over the past five years, and only one -- Michael Vick -- played in an offense that asked him to run the ball more than 105 times in a season. (Newton rushed 264 times last season at Auburn.)

Vick entered the league in 2001 and is just now coming into his own as a passer, and Newton does not have the same quickness and explosiveness to be as successful as Vick running the ball early in his career. Newton also lacks anticipation as a passer. I see far too many throws on tape on which he is late reading coverages, feeling where a wide receiver will break open and throwing to a spot.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/hot?id=6402184

Anyone thinking he will magically change styles is kidding themselves. More than 2.5x more runs than other successful QBs in the league AND issues throwing the ball!

How do people still doubt him?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

http://espn.go.com/nfl/hot?id=6402184

Anyone thinking he will magically change styles is kidding themselves. More than 2.5x more runs than other successful QBs in the league AND issues throwing the ball!

How do people still doubt him?

Am I misremembering how good Vick was in Atl? We couldn't stop him for quite a while. He, individually, altered our draft strategy.

I'd also point out that Vick's accuracy was what held him back in Atl. His college accuracy was never above 58% where Cam's was 66% in a tougher conference, but we all know you'll disregard that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

With either Gabbert or Newton, you'd want to take the Aaron Rodgers or Philip Rivers approach. Each should be on the bench, meaning you either plug in a veteran or hope Clausen develops on the field.

... what would have been the point of drafting Newton if Clausen develops...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Am I misremembering how good Vick was in Atl? We couldn't stop him for quite a while. He, individually, altered our draft strategy.

I'd also point out that Vick's accuracy was what held him back in Atl. His college accuracy was never above 58% where Cam's was 66% in a tougher conference, but we all know you'll disregard that.

:iagree:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter whether we doubt him or not. We have to hope that our FO makes the right decision....and drafts Dareus.

"We just have to get Stan to vote, because if he votes, he'll choose the right one, the one we want, A Giant Douche".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's a good thing people who get paid to judge talent can see past what you can't TRD. I'm not arguing that he's the next Joe Montana, but if he's just a one trick pony, no one would even be talking about him. Sort of like how people NOT in the know said The Golden Calf of Bristol would have to be a FB in the NFL. Well he did better than Clausen, who even experts said was pro-ready. Yes, the safe pick is better than going on faith for a fan, but being in the know trumps everything, and we as fans are not in the know and never will be...no matter how comfy our armchair is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

maybe you cant find a comparison cause he is one of a kind....fact is most QB that ran as much as newton did are just not as developed a passer as he is and do not have the physical tools he has....not to say he is a finished product but if we are comparing him to freaking Brad Smith its just not the same

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Am I misremembering how good Vick was in Atl? We couldn't stop him for quite a while. He, individually, altered our draft strategy.

I'd also point out that Vick's accuracy was what held him back in Atl. His college accuracy was never above 58% where Cam's was 66% in a tougher conference, but we all know you'll disregard that.

It was 61% at Blinn too.

But I'll say it for the haters...

DERP!! COLLEGE STATS NO MEAN NOTHING!!! DERP!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Am I misremembering how good Vick was in Atl? We couldn't stop him for quite a while. He, individually, altered our draft strategy.

I'd also point out that Vick's accuracy was what held him back in Atl. His college accuracy was never above 58% where Cam's was 66% in a tougher conference, but we all know you'll disregard that.

He's nowhere near as athletic as Vick. Make Vick a lot slower, less agile, and not as quick and he's easily stopped. That also makes him Cam Newton.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If we do pick Cam the kid will be on the sidelines until he can learn the playbook which hopefully won't be too long, but with the system switch, it'll take at least a year. Just be patient and take someone next year as we build a foundation for a franchise QB. That's what the Ravens did, the Jets, etc. etc.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I am trying to remember when I EVER said reach for need. My thing if someone falls you jump, if you can trade back a few slots and get help at the right value and pick up some ammo to move up from 51 which I think is outside the money zone, then you do that.   Take a WR later. Plenty of capable WRs have come from the 3rd round. Though this year I would go for C there if there was a reasonable choice. Take a TE if you must. I see more reason to take WR than TE. I think you give guys drafted two years ago and last year a chance to develop before cancelling them.    I think it is kind of unrealistic to throw everything all in on offense in hopes of going deep in the playoffs after an 8-10 year, even if it did have some nice bright spots in it.    And outside of this argument but relevant to it, I am bothered by Canales and Morgan and their apparent posture that we have arrived and are now in the big boy club. I don’t know where that comes from. They are out there talking like they are winners at 8-10. Backing into the playoffs in a real convoluted tie breaker scenario. They had some good games, yes. But the big feather n the cap, the LA Rams matchups, did you see what the Rams did? They didn’t fire the coaches but they fired their defensive backs. Bryce beat them yes, and it was pretty, but it was kind of like the Bucs and Mike Evans picking on our decimated secondary in 2022. Someone (Wilks) went down for allowing that to happen and they went down in LA too.  Wr aren’t as good as a whole lot of homers think we are. Shore up the trenches.    I think too many fans buy into it because they are so starved for anything that looks like a winner. 
    • How exactly does one win OROY "by default"? Wouldn't winning the award mean that of the two, McMillon stayed strong the entire year while the other guy didn't and fizzled out? That's like saying Secretariat only won by default because the other horse stopped moving midway through the race. Absolutely zero logic in that statement, which makes me very glad that I've never really paid much attention to Walterfoozball.
    • I agree, teams in the past have fired the HC in order to retain a coach on staff...hell it happened to Mcderp this year, rams in the past and Im missing another.  The fall off for the Panthers team defense was huge once Mcderp leftd and Ron could not fix it even when he named himself DC. 
×
×
  • Create New...