Why in the hell do analyst think we have no talent?

[jtnc]

This is getting ridiculous, It's not like we've been in the sh*tter for years like the Bills, and Lions.

On Defense

1. We have an outstanding group of LB's.

2. We have a monster DE named "Charles Johnson" who was 5th in the NFL with sacks and a group of promising DE's like Brown, Brayton, and Norwood.

3. We are OK in DB's we have Godfrey, Martin, and Munnerlyn.

On Offense

1. Promising WR's who have shown talent all this season, but how could they "Breakout" when they haven't been getting the damn ball dumba**es?

2. Tight ends: we've recently signed Shockey who should be a star on offense if he stays healthy.

3. RB's: We have arguably the best depth in that position in the NFL, with all star's like J-stew, D-will, and upcoming star KR/HB Goodson.

So take notes.

[SorthNarolina]

we're 2-14.

that's pretty much all there is to it.

[Ivan The Awesome]

We are a small market team. We haven't been relevant in years, ever since Delhomme gave his craptastic performance, the panthers have been horrible. Last years record was embarrassing. We will continue to get crapped on until we make the playoffs again. Bottom line.

[pantherj]

This is getting ridiculous, It's not like we've been in the sh*tter for years like the Bills, and Lions.

On Defense

1. We have an outstanding group of LB's.

2. We have a monster DE named "Charles Johnson" who was 5th in the NFL with sacks and a group of promising DE's like Brown, Brayton, and Norwood.

3. We are OK in DB's we have Godfrey, Martin, and Munnerlyn.

On Offense

1. Promising WR's who have shown talent all this season, but how could they "Breakout" when they haven't been getting the damn ball dumba**es?

2. Tight ends: we've recently signed Shockey who should be a star on offense if he stays healthy.

3. RB's: We have arguably the best depth in that position in the NFL, with all star's like J-stew, D-will, and upcoming star KR/HB Goodson.

So take notes.

They're looking at our offensive talent level, particularly our WRs, and they're not impressed. They also know we lost Peppers on defense, and didn't go out and get a big FA player to replace him.

I don't think our talent level is extremely low, but we're certainly lacking in comparison to other teams in the league.

[DoWorkBson]

Maybe because we rarely looked like we could score a td on an above average high school team last year? Just my guess

[jtnc]

Maybe because we rarely looked like we could score a td on an above average high school team last year? Just my guess

And that's mostly because of QB play.

[Ivan The Awesome]

And that's mostly because of QB play.

Yeah, let's blame all the offensive woes on the QB... smfh.

[jtnc]

Yeah, let's blame all the offensive woes on the QB... smfh.

Because it is, how in the hell are the WR's gonna get the damn ball to make a play?

Stewart and Goodson did well running last year, but they couldn't get it done by their selves. And like Deangelo said, running is established through QB play.

[Ivan The Awesome]

So the offensive line has jack to do with it. The POP warner play calling is moot too? Give me a break. You open up the passing game with the run. The run game last year was sporadic at best, inconsistent. Blame EVERYONE not just the QB..

[jtnc]

So the offensive line has jack to do with it. The POP warner play calling is moot too? Give me a break. You open up the passing game with the run. The run game last year was sporadic at best, inconsistent. Blame EVERYONE not just the QB..

Sure, QB was sooooo not a problem that we just drafted a QB with the #1 pick for depth.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Please , read my post again. Never did I say the QB Was not PART of the problem. He is just that. 'Part' of the problem. Oc is gone, fox is gone as well. The run game will hopefully get a good start, the o line will be back, Otah will hopefully not be hurt.

I don't believe its fair to place the blame on a sole position. If you honestly believe that by drafting cam it will solve the problem then you're in denial. That's my .02 on it.

[Panthercougar68]

Because they're too busy reporting on what the Cowboys had for breakfast and what hair products Tom Brady uses you know the important stuff.

[YourManInAmsterdam]

I think the biggest part of it is that the Panthers have *so* much in the way of untested personnel and I do include Ron Rivera in that lot.

I feel pretty good about things. Sure, I'm kind of a pragmatic homer, but a homer nonetheless.

The analysts are looking at things as objectively as they can, and all they can really praise for certain is our stable of running backs, Beason, and the emergence of Charles Johnson in 2010.

You could, of course, throw Steve Smith into that mix, but there's so much speculation on his possible departure, that it's hard to do so.

So anyway, all that said, is there really a good reason for analysts just give us any real props? Not really.

All I'm really saying is that we have a lot to prove over the next two seasons if we really want to be back in the mix, and that won't come easy in the NFCS.

[SCP]

Charles Johnson is not a "monster" and never include E. Brown as an "up and coming DE". Frank Garcia says it almost every day on his radio show, Charles Johnson does not make defensive coordinators lose sleep. He does not require you to double team him every play like some true monsters. E. Brown is dead in the water if a tackle gets his hands on him, which by the way, happens way too often. For Brown to pressure the QB, a tackle has to whiff on his initial punch or take an incorrect step out of his set.

That being said, we are not as sh*tty as many say we are. Our O-line was held together by duct tape last year. WR, maybe so.