One thing I have noticed....

[joande]

I think it's true but our coach also felt his team can win 10 games. So keep that in mind. I think it's both long term and short term (as long it's cheap).

[Jangler]

Playoffs or bust this year to be honest.

[PantherBrew]

Jeff Bridges is the fugin man.

[GritsRgreat]

Guess the "putting the best product on the field in order to win football games" days are over.

Maybe the "i'm not buying a ticket until they produce a credible football team" is in order.

Welcome to last year people.

[PantherBrew]

It's obvious who the idealistic and realistic people are on the huddle.

[CRA]

neither were the Falcons in 2008....but poo happens. That is the fun thing about sports.

Sure, I am expecting 4-7 win personally...but I got no issue w/ some thinking what if.....

[hepcat]

I know it's sad but I'd be happy with a 6-10 season. As bad as the Panthers were last year, a 4 game improvement would be big. But I think the 4-7 win range sounds about right.

[panthers55]

Playoff appearances are what happens when you have a good team with consistent players and a good system in place. At this point rather than making the playoffs, we need to be focused on finding talented players who can make plays in the system we will be using. If you find enough players and have a good scheme, winning and losing takes care of itself. I don't have a number of wins that would make me happy or not but rather playing hard and being competitive in the fourth quarter when it counts. If we do that we will have a team of which we can be proud. As coaches like to say, I want the Panthers to be a tough out this year.

[CRA]

Playoff appearances are what happens when you have a good team with consistent players and a good system in place. At this point rather than making the playoffs, we need to be focused on finding talented players who can make plays in the system we will be using. If you find enough players and have a good scheme, winning and losing takes care of itself. I don't have a number of wins that would make me happy or not but rather playing hard and being competitive in the fourth quarter when it counts. If we do that we will have a team of which we can be proud. As coaches like to say, I want the Panthers to be a tough out this year.

yep, after the bye I want all the potential playoff teams we face to be like, "Poo, we have those darn scrappy Panthers this week".

[j2sgam]

As long as we finish better than we start, I will be happy. Im not talkin a flip-flop like '04 either, I dont think it will be that drastic of a change... The 'new product' we will be seeing should keep things interesting enough regardless of the team's record...

[Crixtala]

i just want to see progress and growth from week 1 to week 17

i'd be happily surprised by a playoff appearance, but i'm in no way expecting it... nor will i be calling for players/coaches/marty's/jerry's heads when we don't make it

be realistic people... this is a rebuilding process. hurney and rivera are building a brand new team in a brand new image and it can't be completed in a single offseason

[davos]

I know its hard, but just try to lower expectations.

Btw, don't be embarrassed about the Panthers, people will actually respect you for sticking with your team no matter how bad they are, and when we are good again, everyone will know you are not a bandwagon.

In the end, it will be much more fulfilling.

great point

[JungleCat]

I already think they will be better than last year's team. The attitude of the team is different for one thing. Hopefully it'll be enough to keep building on.

[teeray]

I pulled for the Braves in the 80's so surely I can get through this.

I still think this defense can be pretty good this year once they get more comfortable in the system and understand what they are doing and reacting instead of thinking.