Keep this in mind about Sunday

[CRA]

Never said I wasn't going to enjoy some of the opinions on here.

Some of the opinions and posts are worth enjoying.

This thread has a few of them. I'm enjoying the poo out of it without insulting anyone.

everyone already knows how much you enjoy your Cam trolling.

[davos]

One other major thing to consider on the defensive side of things is who our mysterious defensive linemen are going up against: the starting LG for the freaking Packers the last 5 seasons in Daryn Colledge, an underrated Center in Sendlein, but a crappy LG with Rex Hadnot.

[TheRealDeal]

If he's bad, it's a good thing.

If he's decent, it's a fuging amazing thing!

Those are the only two outcomes on Sunday, per you.

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[CRA]

If he's bad, it's a good thing.

If he's decent, it's a fuging amazing thing!

Those are the only two outcomes on Sunday, per you.

..........

when you draft a rookie QB #1, start him with a new staff in the process of installing a completely new scheme.......yeah, he should be bad and that would be completely normal and okay. That should be expected. Line of thought has nothing to do with Cam specifically just basic football in the NFL.

the point was again, NFL history has proven, #1 overall QBs don't lead there teams to win week 1 and normally are horrible. Expecting that Cam will be an exception to proven NFL history reality or then that means his bar has been lowered.....is absurd.

NFL history shows what is likely to happen Sunday....not me. The problem you have with this line of talk is you know what should happen Sunday and can't wait to spin that and do your standard trashing of Cam.

[frash.exe]

Never said I wasn't going to enjoy some of the opinions on here.

Some of the opinions and posts are worth enjoying.

This thread has a few of them. I'm enjoying the poo out of it without insulting anyone.

yea but since his OP was rooted in fact then you should have no problem with it, right?

[frash.exe]

I mean really the OP seemed kind of benign and wasn't really addressing anyone specifically and you can go back and verify the facts he included in his post

[TheRealDeal]

NFL history shows what is likely to happen Sunday....not me. The problem you have with this line of talk is you know what should happen Sunday and can't wait to spin that and do your standard trashing of Cam.

It's such a small sample size it's irrelevant.

Ignoring that, you should include all the facts if you want to base a discussion on that.

How many instances of this are there, what is the level of opponent, what is the talent level around QB, how strong is the run game to lean on, how strong is the defense, etc?

Is playing decent and getting a win better than playing good and getting a loss?

This whole thread comes down to "If he's bad, it's expected therefor it's good and if he's decent it's great."

[raleigh-panther]

Cam will be fine.

In 2 years hopefully, he will be great.

He is the least of the worries, with outlets at RB and TE.

Defense is going to be what kills the Panthers.

[bleys]

OP, you're right. But the sad part about it is that half this board needs daily reminders like that.

Because our fanbase is pathetic.

[lightsout]

As long as Cam doesn't COST us a game, nobody should bitch and moan about the way he plays. If he keeps us in it from start to finish, that is all you can really ask from him. Mistakes will happen, and we can't overreact. HUGE plays will happen, and again, we can't overreact. Just let it ebb and flow for the season.

[ckad79]

And if he does manage to come out looking good and we somehow win... remember that Weinke won his first game too! :D

[ckad79]

As long as Cam doesn't COST us a game, nobody should bitch and moan about the way he plays. If he keeps us in it from start to finish, that is all you can really ask from him. Mistakes will happen, and we can't overreact. HUGE plays will happen, and again, we can't overreact. Just let it ebb and flow for the season.

I think in order for us to have even the slightest CHANGE, Cam will have to gamble and try some pretty crazy things which are going to GRANTED, put us at a risk to loose the game. Still, I can't see him playing SAFE and us somehow winning... not with this group. Cam will have to use his feet, he'll have to get fancy.

[Chaos]

Is it sad that im more worried about the defense than I am cam?

I'm right there with you to be honest. I feel like Cam has solid talent all around him on offense, especially with Otah healthy and a replacement for Bernadon't.

The defense though, if they can't stop the run, and continue to get gashed for big chunks, fml, it will be a long day.

[lightsout]

I think in order for us to have even the slightest CHANGE, Cam will have to gamble and try some pretty crazy things which are going to GRANTED, put us at a risk to loose the game. Still, I can't see him playing SAFE and us somehow winning... not with this group. Cam will have to use his feet, he'll have to get fancy.

Well, I know all that. What I am saying is he can't go out and throw 2 picks while not leading a couple scoring drives. He can't fumble handoffs that turn into points. That's what I mean by "costing us the game." I know he's going to try crazy things and those won't always work, but as long as those types of plays aren't consistently costing us games, nobody has the right to bitch about Cam.