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In retrospect... are you happy that we already used our 1st round pick last year?


charlottenian

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Otah's on the field every down, and Stewart isn't. But let's take the trade equity out of it, and no one (including the team) thought Williams would do as well as he has. And maybe part of that performance was being pushed this hard by someone as talented as Stewart.

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The only way we wouldn't have selected Stewart was if he was gone when we picked. Once we made that pick we immediately delved back in trying to trade up to get Otah or someone like him.

Problem with picking which is better is the same as trying to evaluate a draft class the year after you select them. You need at least 3 years to see how they develop and who ends up being free from consistent injury, who tends to keep improving, who ends ups being more valuable.

So far my vote is Otah. Lets do this again next February and I may feel completely differently.

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The question for those that don't like that we gave up the 2nd and 4th is, is a late 1st, along with a 2nd, and 4th worth a top 10 (and possibly top 5) pick?

After all, knowing what we know now, if Otah was to come out this year, he would go no later than the 6th or 7th pick, and there's a good chance he would go even earlier. So, in general terms, I think most experts would say a late first, mid 2nd, and mid 4th would be good value for a top pick guaranteed to transition well.

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I wouldn't change a thing.

Agreed. I think this year's draft is particularly week among the positions we actually need to draft for. Grabbing a starting OL and a starting RB in one year of the draft is pretty dang awesome. I really think Stewart will improve even more this upcoming year, coming closer to a 50/50 split with DeAngelo.

It just seems like next year's draft has a lot more potential.

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IF i had to choose between the two id rather have otah, but i think taking both was a great move. i dont see why people didnt think deangelo could be as effective as he was, he's had a great rushing average his whole career and should have been starting day 1. he has more yards from scrimmage than any other player in college HISTORY and deserved the heisman over bush and to be drafted over him. he has by far the smoothest cutting mechanics in the league, LT like vision, and incredible balance. not to mention this year it seems he added some bulk to his frame. while i dont see williams outperforming what he did last year, i could see this team (if healthy) putting up 3 thousands yards on the ground, and a good chunk of that is from having BOTH otah and jstew.

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