Hey Clark Judge you're a moron....

[Chaos]

I have to give Dalton his props. Cam is number one pick Heisman winner, national champion from a strong SEC program.

Dalton is a ginger, and he's getting it done.

[Future of the Funchise]

This thread is on a downslide

[Jangler]

harrumph!

[Proudiddy]

Well when you have the amount of 1st and 2nd round picks healthy and playing on the defensive side of the ball that they do, your offense doesn't have to do much.

He's doing what is expected.

That being said, I would also like to point out that before Cam became a legitimate first round/first pick possibility, I said that I thought Dalton could be the steal of the draft.

Cam is still better, Dalton just has the better team.

[csx]

When did I say he wasn't playing well, but to compare both situations like they are the same is idiotic.

They are both rookie QB's taking over the most important position on bad teams. It's not really idiotic at all.

[DaCityKats]

I sound like a broken record here, but his defense deserves ALOT of credit. No one is talking about the Bengals D, and they are doing a great job. Dalton has done a good job, but he also has more help on the other side of the ball. Give Cam that D and I think we'd have more wins.

thread. the difference between them is one defense is allowing 28+ points while the other is not. plain and simple.

[Dpantherman]

For numbers sake...Bengals D:

279 yards/game (1st)

18.8 points/game (5th)

33% 3rd down % (8th)

[Marguide]

I don't get why he is a moron for pointing out that Dalton is playing well. You'd be a moron for not thinking he's playing well.

Or is this just more whining because somebody acknowledged a player not named Cam Newton for being good?

I have no problem with acknowledging that Dalton is playing well, especially for a rookie.

Someone else looking good does nothing to diminish our own players' successes.

Agree. Dalton has played well. Not as well as Newton, but the author was not making a case he was. He is just giving props to another young player that is off to a good start.

It should also be pointed out that Marvin Lewis deserves a lot of credit for keeping that team competitive. Given all the stuff going on with Palmer, they had every reason to collapse. Color me surprised at their good start, even if it was against the middle of the league.

[Mr. Scot]

I sound like a broken record here, but his defense deserves ALOT of credit. No one is talking about the Bengals D, and they are doing a great job. Dalton has done a good job, but he also has more help on the other side of the ball. Give Cam that D and I think we'd have more wins.

Mike Zimmer is still a great DC.

[L-TownCat]

I don't get why he is a moron for pointing out that Dalton is playing well. You'd be a moron for not thinking he's playing well.

Or is this just more whining because somebody acknowledged a player not named Cam Newton for being good?

Dalton may be playing well but lets not get over zealous here. He has a #1 defense keeping other teams off the field, and oh look they have played who exactly? Cam is good and Im not gonna hype him anymore. Andy is doin his job up there and Cam is doing his job down here. The fact of the matter is that Andy Dalton does not belong in a Panthers message board.

[rayzor]

this team hasn't won games because of the defense and special teams.

simple as that.

we don't even need those two to be dominant. we just need them to not suck. then we win.

[Dpantherman]

Mike Zimmer is still a great DC.

seriously, they sort of fell off last year, but Zimmer has his defense playing again. Cam's job is to put up points, hes done that, he can't play defense.

[Proudiddy]

Maulaluga, Rivers, Dunlap, and Johnson don't hurt either.

[MGH1989]

Again, Im giving Dalton his props, he is playing well. I jus don't agree with comparing the two by records when Cam is being asked to do more and playing with a better defense. Cam has a better offense, but the gap between our O and theirs is much slimmer than Our D to their D.