Players or Coaches/Staff?

[Lumps]

Curious as to whose learning curve do you guys think is affecting us the most (negatively)?

[bleys]

both.

[CRA]

talent is the issue.....can't teach a dog to fly. There simply isn't the talent on D and ST right now.

Offensively, I fault both the coaches and players for being penalized.....they are still figuring out the scheme and strengths of what they are.

[Snake]

Good coaches can play with less talent. I would say Hurney's unwillingness to spend money in the right places coupled with Rookie coaching tanked this season.

[bleys]

I think our coaches have done a good job with the depleted talent on defense.. especially last week.

offense poo the bed last week.. a lot of that had to do with players.. I guess the coaches can be blamed for being unable to pull them out of such a disastrous downward spiral..

[chef17]

Both. Some stuff can be due to lack off talent but basic stuff like tackling has to fall on the coaches as well

[The Huddler]

We lost some very talented players on D, and we definatly lack talent up front and at the LB position, but give this team a solid offseason to get healthy and to learn this defensive scheme properly with Ota's and workouts or whatever. Rivera WILL turn this defense around to bet one of the top in tHE Nfl. Same goes for the offense!

[bleys]

Both. Some stuff can be due to lack off talent but basic stuff like tackling has to fall on the coaches as well

tackling is a league wide epidemic.. and now it falls on the CBAs shoulders more than the coaches..

[The Saltman]

Coaching, player ineptitude, and no depth. Basically we are all sorts of fuged up.

[Darth Biscuit]

Coaching, player ineptitude, and no depth. Basically we are all sorts of fuged up.

Coaches that are new and learning how to use the players that we have...

Injuries hurt us BAD. If Edwards, Beason and Davis had not gotten hurt, our D would be a LOT different.

With a decent draft, and what I'm hoping will be a good FA showing next off season, now that we have a legit QB, we could be really good next year.

FA wise, I think Hurney knows what he's doing, and I doubt they expected to do a whole lot this year. This off season, we have a draw for offensive FA's (Cam) and hopefully we can get these injured guys back and beef up the D with the draft.

[SCP]

All fingers point at Armanti Edwards.