Giving our defense excuses

[Peppermint9030]

should lead to you being banned...I've heard "were not bad we just play a good 30 minutes on defense", "We just don't have much depth"...Depth? We don't have talent! One decent LB, one good CB, and a solid DE...That is it the rest of the defense can be scraped...Hardy your a rotation guy at best...Our DT's BLOW, our Line Backers BLOW, our secondary BLOW'S, our scheme BLOW'S...Overreacting? NO, look at the talent around the league! Our starters may not crack other teams "depth"... One thing that makes this hard for me is Fox has Denver winning by holding opponents under 13 a game, they were 28th in D last season...Our defense has drastically dropped from last year...The type of fall that the offense would take if you put Jimmy in for Cam...Drastic, scrapped, it looks horrible, it is horrible...If it walk's like a fuging duck, and talk's like a fuging duck then guess what people it's usually a fuging DUCK! We can't stop the run, can't tackle worth a poo, and can't cover besides Gamble, and we don't have a consistent pass rush...Well I guess that mean's our defense blows...Sugar coat that every one I'm waiting for it...I thought Rivera was a defensive guy? No one thought the D would drop this bad...And don't hand me that "well wait till next off season" poo we wasted two early picks on the DT's of the "future"...Does that show you a little something...fug without Cam we have the worst draft in the NFL.

[The Other Colbert]

but they're young and in a new system!

:auto:

[YoungPanthers89]

I'll go 1st

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[TheRealDeal]

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[mav1234]

we have a decent amount of talent, but a lot of it is young. I really think a large part of our problem is depth... we just can't stay with it for the full game. That's because many of the guys we are starting are typically rotation players who would be coming off the bench to keep our starters healthy, but with injuries to LBers and to our starting DT, we're playing a lot of youth and rotation guys, and we're wearing them out. It's not that we're great on first string and horrible after, it's that I think we are actually relatively average when fresh but terrrrible in depth because our average first string is supposed to be our depth.

As to this defense not having talent, when it's healthy it has plenty of talent. Even right now, we have one great DE, one good DE, a good LB, a good CB, one good safety and one average safety. We also have promising youth at nickle back (being forced to start at 2nd CB because our FO piss me off curse curse) and DT (well, mcclain anyway, though Rivera actually thought fua was better this last game and mcclain was a bit worse).

It's way more complicated than "we don't have talent." It's fair to say we don't have healthy, experienced talent, because we are playing backups and a fair number of young guys, but I think that if we make smart FA moves and draft well we could very quickly build this defense up.

But we will need to make FA moves I think, and I'm not sure that happens.

[Fox007]

I'm not sold on our DC by any means.

We have a lack of talent/depth IMO on the defense, but none of that may be as bad as MCDERP.(from his time in Philly too)

[Davidson Deac II]

should lead to you being banned...I've heard "were not bad we just play a good 30 minutes on defense", "We just don't have much depth"...Depth? We don't have talent! One decent LB, one good CB, and a solid DE...That is it the rest of the defense can be scraped...Hardy your a rotation guy at best...Our DT's BLOW, our Line Backers BLOW, our secondary BLOW'S, our scheme BLOW'S...Overreacting? NO, look at the talent around the league! Our starters may not crack other teams "depth"... One thing that makes this hard for me is Fox has Denver winning by holding opponents under 13 a game, they were 28th in D last season...Our defense has drastically dropped from last year...The type of fall that the offense would take if you put Jimmy in for Cam...Drastic, scrapped, it looks horrible, it is horrible...If it walk's like a fuging duck, and talk's like a fuging duck then guess what people it's usually a fuging DUCK! We can't stop the run, can't tackle worth a poo, and can't cover besides Gamble, and we don't have a consistent pass rush...Well I guess that mean's our defense blows...Sugar coat that every one I'm waiting for it...I thought Rivera was a defensive guy? No one thought the D would drop this bad...And don't hand me that "well wait till next off season" poo we wasted two early picks on the DT's of the "future"...Does that show you a little something...fug without Cam we have the worst draft in the NFL.

You really need to relax man or those arteries in your head are going to BLOW. :sifone:

[Davidson Deac II]

Fwiw, I knew our defense would be bad when Beason, Davis, and Edwards went down. We weren't any better than average last year, and losing players of that caliber take you from average to below average. Injuries are not an excuse, but they are definitely a reason. And before anyone brings up Green Bay from last year, there are a handful of times in NFL history that a team has suffered that many key injuries and still been able to finish with a championship season. Most of the time, teams suffering through multiple key injuries end up not being very good. The few that do go on and keep winning are usually teams that get lucky in the depth department.

That being said, I am not sold on Mcdermott either and wasn't sure about the hire when we hired him. But I certainly ain't gonna judge him or any other coach (win or lose) on 8 games.

[Donald LaFell]

That 1st post feels like im staring into the fuging matrix I don't mind a long read but let's see some indenting!

[bes628]

I don't mind the scheme but we clearly have issues. We're clearly playing players who wouldn't be playing on good teams. Definitely not a recipe for success but we do have some good players( DE's,Gamble), a couple of them out (Beason and TD), and some decent ones (Godfrey,Andersen, Connor). We really need a ballhawk FS, and another corner with some skills and size opposite of Gamble ( I like Butler, but he's still proving himself), and we need some power in the middle of our DL.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

I did not read that because it was too long but I will say most of our defense is undrafted free agent practice squad bums. Or guys with that kind of talent. That is a fact. Your defense is not going to be good when that is the case. There is a lot of personnel moves that will have to be made on that side of the ball before our defense is good. Hopefully the right moves will be made and we will be a top defense like we were forever ago.

[BeasonBeastingBacks]

wat

[Fright]

Our safeties are divas who pray they don't have to tackle and our DTs are inexperienced marshmallows.

Healthy or not, Beason and Davis couldn't even save this D. A ball hawking safety and a stud DT would do wonders for covering some of our lack of skill/depth.

[Dilated_chakra]

I think Greg hardy should fug peppers and then we clone a bunch of children and let them play every position. Julireg hepperdys every fudging where!!