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Cam's argument for ROTY


smitty_89

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I think it will still come down to these last games. Season isn't over, yet.

Currently, though, Cam is ahead. But Dalton has won, and is developing into a very good passer. So who knows.

Individual awards don't depend on winning records. Dalton has won because defensively the Bengals are much better then the Panthers. Cam has already broken the rushing TD record, he will break the passing yardage and rushing yardage for rookies so how could the best offensive rookie of all time not win the OROTY award? Teams records should not effect individual awards, I mean individually he has been outstanding, the defense not so much.

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Individual awards don't depend on winning records. Dalton has won because defensively the Bengals are much better then the Panthers. Cam has already broken the rushing TD record, he will break the passing yardage and rushing yardage for rookies so how could the best offensive rookie of all time not win the OROTY award? Teams records should not effect individual awards, I mean individually he has been outstanding, the defense not so much.

makes the most sense to me..

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Clayton obviously hasn't been watching Cam the last 3-4 weeks saying he's improving every week and voting when he's admittedly only seen 3 of Dalton's games?

Gimme a break.

And you obviously are watching with a jaded eye if you don't see he is improving. Looking at interceptions or other stats which change from week to week based on who we are playing or game situations don't tell you the real deal. Cam is obviously a rookie but you can see how he adapts and adjust each week. When he struggles one week he watches film, practices and makes adjustments the next week. Anyone who is objective can see that Cam has the ability to learn and adjust everyday. He is a quick study and a student of the game. Improvement isn't about being spectacular every week, it is learning from each situation and adjusting to what he sees every week.

I would think you would know that.

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oh yeah...i guess so. pepsi rookie of the year is the one that there is just one overall, but it's voted on by fans so...meh....

the official one has one for each that is voted on by the AP.

fwiw, just saw that a QB has only won OROTY 5 times ever and 4 of those have been in the last 7 years (big ben, VY, matt ryan, sam bradford).

Looking at the list of "winners" actually makes me think maybe we're better off if he doesn't get it.

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what's funny is that at the level cam's playing it's not going to matter how much you guys argue that Dalton deserves it.

Cam's got the benefit of a broader fan base that isn't necessarily panthers fans; my cousin has an authentic Newton jersey and he isn't a panther fan. If Dalton was a Cowboy or Redskin he'd have a shot but virtually no one roots for the Bengals outside of Ohio, so really the only reason anyone else is going to vote for him at the end of the year is because they're texas christian fans, despise Cam to the point that it verges on rain-man like obsession, or they're bigots and resent a black guy accomplishing something.

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