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Rebuilding the D

Khaki Lackey

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rivera ran a 3-4 in both Chicago and SD. Why is he not moving to that here? What players that we want to keep could not adapt and what type of players do we need in addition to our keepers on D? Come on huddler X's and O's geniuses, dazzle me with your vast knowledge.

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as stated, he ran a 4-3 in chicago. took over and kept wade phillips' 3-4 defense in san diego. philly also had the 4-3. we definitely aren't switching to a 3-4. rivera and mcdermott have said so. we just go into a 3-4 package at times to make things interesting. if you want to talk about it though...

DE: hardy, mcclain, neblett?

NT: edwards, fua, kearse

OLB: cj, keiser, applewhite, norwood

ILB: beason, anderson, TD

our 4-3 personnel is pretty obvious. doesn't need to be rebuilt at all.

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I poo you not...less than 15 minutes ago I was talking to someone at work about the mysterious lack of "omg 3-4 gaiz" threads on the huddle lately.

Thank you for breaking the seal so I can look forward to another offseason full of people trying to justify cramming our personnel into a 3-4.

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I poo you not...less than 15 minutes ago I was talking to someone at work about the mysterious lack of "omg 3-4 gaiz" threads on the huddle lately.

Thank you for breaking the seal so I can look forward to another offseason full of people trying to justify cramming our personnel into a 3-4.

I'm not suggesting that I think we are going to switch, but I was wondering if any of you had any insight as to how difficult of a transition it would be considering we only have about 3 players worth keeping on that side of the ball. Sorry, we can go back to discussing all black uniforms now.

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i'm just going to jump on the wagon and say you are wrong.

he's a 4-3 guy.

it won't be rebuilt.

we will show a good number of 3-4 looks among a lot of other looks, but we are a 4-3 base D. considering who we have that won't likely change any time soon.

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I'm not suggesting that I think we are going to switch, but I was wondering if any of you had any insight as to how difficult of a transition it would be considering we only have about 3 players worth keeping on that side of the ball. Sorry, we can go back to discussing all black uniforms now.

It would be a terrible transition. Whether we, as fans, think we have three players worth keeping or not what we HAVE are players that were brought here with the idea of playing 4-3 (remember Rivera even said early on he was not changing our base defense to a 3-4). Accepting as common sense that we will not be able to draft / sign through FA an entire 3-4 defense it would be no better than we have this year more than likely (with the exception of returning injured players) and would likely be far worse.

Unless someone thinks that some of the players who are not good enough for this D would be good enough if we moved to a 3-4 then you would have players who were bad this year being bad next year too only with a totally different defense to really fug poo up.

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It wont happen. The transition to change schemes takes a while. If he wanted to go 3-4 this would have been the year to do it. Remember Rivera only has a four year deal and he can't waste any time changing schemes. The 4-3 defense we run is very similar to a 3-4 defense. The difference in them is the personnel of 3 down line to 4 down line or 4 linebackers to 3 linebackers. This year we wanted to do a lot of zone blitizing but we just don't have the right personnel to do so. If we could find an really good CB who can shutdown half the field we can blitz a little bit more then normal and maybe force turnovers.

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Giving big contracts last year indicated to me we are staying in a 4-3.The bigger question is how are we going to put more pressure on the qb with what we have and what we can draft ?I know we had injuries at DT and lb but the blitzs we brought were in my opinion ineffective. I dont think our problems will be fixed with a rookie cb.Thoughts?

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