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[Ruff]

ftfy

That would work as well.

I actually wouldn't mind something like:

1. Poe/DT

2. Linebacker - Zach Brown will supposedly run the fastest 40 time of any linebacker in the history of the combine. At least, that's what they were saying this morning.

Trade back into the 2nd or 3rd, grab a CB.

[XClown1986]

strength is not an indicator of overall "work" as physics would dictate which includes distance traveled. This is especially true of when you are moving bodies around in the trenches.

The strongest guy in the weight room on the Panthers is Charles Johnson, the trainers have been quoted saying so. His weight room strength combined with athleticism has caused him to have success on the field. Poe has that potential plus some, and it's not like he is a workout warrior, his game tape was warranting a 1st to 2nd round grade before anyone even knew what he would do at the combine. This kids potential in the trenches can get up to Kris Jenkins' and Haloti Ngata's level. At WORST he is a more than serviceable nose tackle. He is looking to be the safest pick at DT right now. Maybe not eventually the best, but he looks to have the least bust potential.

P.S. He put up 44 reps with 32 inch arms and isn't even in the NFL yet. He still has 1-2 years of molding a pro body type in the NFL before we even see what he is truly capable of. That's scary.

[Razeyfingers]

The strongest guy in the weight room on the Panthers is Charles Johnson, the trainers have been quoted saying so. His weight room strength combined with athleticism has caused him to have success on the field. Poe has that potential plus some, and it's not like he is a workout warrior, his game tape was warranting a 1st to 2nd round grade before anyone even knew what he would do at the combine. This kids potential in the trenches can get up to Kris Jenkins' and Haloti Ngata's level. At WORST he is a more than serviceable nose tackle. He is looking to be the safest pick at DT right now. Maybe not eventually the best, but he looks to have the least bust potential.

I think you might be reading too much into what I was saying. Im not defending either player. Im telling you. . that in physics. . . strength does not define overall work done which is directly applicable to moving large objects in the trenches.

I personally dont think Brockers is that great either, and Im learning about Poe now.

[XClown1986]

I think you might be reading too much into what I was saying. Im not defending either player. Im telling you. . that in physics. . . strength does not define overall work done which is directly applicable to moving large objects in the trenches.

I personally dont think Brockers is that great either, and Im learning about Poe now.

I understand.

I'm just saying that a 350 pound man running a 4.87 and bench pressing 225 44 times is a BAMF and physics is scratching it's head a little bit with him IMO.

I see what you're saying though. On the field work is different.

[pantherj]

Poe just destroyed the 4 bag agility drill, with speed, quickness, and perfect footwork.

[Ruff]

I think you might be reading too much into what I was saying. Im not defending either player. Im telling you. . that in physics. . . strength does not define overall work done which is directly applicable to moving large objects in the trenches.

I personally dont think Brockers is that great either, and Im learning about Poe now.

It's not that the strength is impressive, the impressive thing was the 40 time. Or, more specifically, the 1.7 10yard split. That shows how quick he is, how easily he can burst through towards a QB/RB in the backfield. (Think about this for a minute. Cam ran a 4.59 40, Poe ran a 4.87, while weight sixty-seventy pounds more.)

His strength is a bonus to his speed. He will be able to shove guys out of his way, which will cause double teams, freeing up someone else on the line as well as a linebackers. Poe is making a huge impression on teams right now.

He may not have had the greatest season at Memphis, but he wouldn't have the Pro Bowl quality around him like he would in Carolina. Double teaming Poe frees up Charles Johnson, it frees up Jon Beason, it frees up James Anderson, it frees up Charles Godfrey to blitz like a mad man.

[Razeyfingers]

at 9 a NT better eat up gaps (strength burst balance), be dependable, have a slight nasty streak and no injury concerns. Thats what they say right?

[pantherj]

Poe did ok in the 3 man bag drill, but not quite as quick as I was hoping. Devon Still screwed up the 3 man bag drill, and got yelled at for sucking.

[Ruff]

at 9 a NT better eat up gaps (strength burst balance), be dependable, have a slight nasty streak and no injury concerns. Thats what they say right?

I don't know about his injury concerns (does he have any?) or his nasty streak, but we've seen his measurables, and those are insane.

[stirs]

Mayock says most of Poe's negatives are coaching and could easily be corrected. Man, he could help our pass rush. Double teams would have to come his way.

[mick eye]

How much has Poe helped his draft stock? We all have to ask if he has went from 27th overall to 9th. Roughly a month ago i posted

Matter of fact i think its the DT class that has very little separation in talent. With no Suh or Dareus scouts have inflated the value of Brockers and Still. If i may i would like to rank the DT's imo.

1a. Brockers

1b. Still

1c. Brandon Thompson

2a. Jerel Worthy

2b. Fletcher Cox

3a. Dontari Poe

3b. Josh Chapman

After the combine i have to say Poe has leapfrogged everyone. With him as top NT and Cox as top UT. Another variable we need to use to adjust Poe's stock

How serious are we about more 3-4 looks? Just asking where is Poe on our board.

[AceMan]

Not gonna lie, I'm a hoe for Poe now

[Marguide]

6 weeks ago Shawn Zoebels predicted Poe would go in the top 5. Everyone thought he was crazy. I still don't expect top 5, but top 10 is very realistic.

I'm still undecided whose bandwagon to jump on, but Brockers has become a guy I don't want at 9. His combine performance has been pretty pathetic so far and he hasn't shown me enough on the field to justify his selection.

[Dpantherman]

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