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Delhomme has new deal

jbland

By jbland,
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Haven't had time nor the patience to read the whole thread but this is hardly a cap saving move. You just gave JAKE DELHOMME 20 million GUARENTEE'D....5 years 20 million with 6 million guarentee'd would be a more suitable contract. No matter how incentive based the contract is or backloaded 20 million guarentee'd is still way too much for Jake and you guys will be stuck with him for quite awhile unless taking a large cap hit for cutting him. Hes better served in the backup role and you guys are going to have one incredibly expensive backup QB.

Dude go read Gantt's article on Jake. It's obvious that Jake is the 5th best QB in the league. We got a great deal here.

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ah hem

So only QBs above average can start? Just how many above average QBs are there. Surely if he is average, that means he is average in coordination with the QBs in the league and thus the mean of all starting Qbs? So therefore if he is the average of all the QBs in the league, then shouldn't he be starting?

Let see there are 32 teams in the NFL each team has about 2.5 QB's. So you take 32x2.5= 80. 80 divide by 2 equal 40 so Jake is around the 40th best qb in the NFL. :D

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Ah yes...the Queen of Jake Cant Do No Wrong By Me defenders has arrived.

You're right...I've never said he's had a crappy game or an average year or anything. I am constantly saying he is elite. I have never said it's time to start planning for the future or that they should think about drafting a guy in the first next year or that they should have this year if the class was good an they had a first. I've never said that if he has lost the LR, he is done.

Exaggeration central FTL.

I am a bit surprised at the length (I probably would have done a 2 year extension) but when I heard the news the immediate thought I had was 20 m guaranteed.

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This may be a cap move in the immediate sense only - but this also means Delhomme will be on the roster for at least 2 seasons AFTER this season.

Cut him:

next year: 16 million dollar CAP HIT

year after: 12 million dollar hit

year after: 8 million dollar hit

Unless I don't understand something about prorated signing bonuses, which is possible of course

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Question: What is Jake doing now?

Possible answers:

-laughing all the way to the bank

-thawing out his last box of Jake Flakes

-making it rain at his favorite pub

-spying the Huddle, saying "Who's Joke Delhomme, now? Joke's on you, buster!"

-chomping on Gravy Train just for the hell of it.

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Haven't had time nor the patience to read the whole thread but this is hardly a cap saving move. You just gave JAKE DELHOMME 20 million GUARENTEE'D....5 years 20 million with 6 million guarentee'd would be a more suitable contract. No matter how incentive based the contract is or backloaded 20 million guarentee'd is still way too much for Jake and you guys will be stuck with him for quite awhile unless taking a large cap hit for cutting him. Hes better served in the backup role and you guys are going to have one incredibly expensive backup QB.

5 years 20 million with 6 million guaranteed would be asking him to take a 50 percent paycut. considering he was making something like 11 million a year.

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not near as expensive is let's say Alex Smith, Matt Leinart, Vince Young or any of the other first round busts. IT IS a cap saving move THIS YEAR considering the Peppers situation which may not get resolved this season. IF you knew the Panthers situation, we had less than 3 mil in cap room going to the draft. Jake was due to make 11 mil this year, let's say for arguement sake he makes 8 mil this year(which is probably more than actuality), that just doubled cap space. Peppers wont be making 17 mil next year hopefully, so that is plenty of room to operate in the future.

Your trying to compare Jake to potential first round busts...these guys were paid for what they did in college not in the nfl. Rookie contracts have gotten way out of hand and hopefully they will be fixed and if any of those players were resigned today they wouldn't be touching 20million guarentee'd. A cap saving move woulda been a 3yr 16-17 million dollar contract incentive based with a low amount of guarentee'd money.

The contract does help this year but could really kick your asses down the road...its almost like Hurney doesn't care about the future with this contract. If Jake comes out next season at the age of 35?? and puts up a horrid year which is very possible and next season you aquire a STARTING QB than you are stuck with an 8 million dollar a year 35 yr old back up who you CANNOT cut without doing more damage to the cap than the contract saved.

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Being serious for a moment there is one concern I have about the deal...

It's a five year deal with $20 mil guarenteed. I do not really see how we extend him for less than that, but it does mean that we are not going to cut him after this season and likely not after next season. Which means both McCown and Moore are pretty assuredly NOT the QBs of the future. They at least are not being given a realistic shot of winning the job as it just does not make financial sense to give this contract, to cut him after one season.

So with that thought, maybe we may see a QB picked late in teh draft. Or possibly JP Losman coming in for a visit <shudder>

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