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Quote on Peppers in PFW


Delhommey

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The problem with Julius Peppers is he needs to be paid, and he is trying to control the process. He is being selective. We would like to have him, but there's a lot has to fall the right way.

Quoted on the condition of anonymity.

My guess is this is someone from the Pats.

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IMO that wouldn't dovetail with the Pats being that team unless they are NOT on his "list". The reason I say that is the "he is being selective" part. What could he be selective about that would make sense besides the team he wants to go to? And if his being "selective" is making things tougher for the anonymous team, my conclusion is that they aren't on Pep's list.

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IMO that wouldn't dovetail with the Pats being that team unless they are NOT on his "list". The reason I say that is the "he is being selective" part. What could he be selective about that would make sense besides the team he wants to go to? And if his being "selective" is making things tougher for the anonymous team, my conclusion is that they aren't on Pep's list.

The getting paid part is what they'd have issues with.

What makes me think the Pats is that last sentence echos what Billy boy's said in the past.

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The chances of him staying are looking more grim.

I agree with everything but the grim part. While losing him may hurt us in the short term, I think the net effect will be beneficial. He is a good, but not great player, and for the price we pay, he should be great. Better to get two good players (even if we have to wait till next year to get them) for what Peppers cost us.

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I agree with everything but the grim part. While losing him may hurt us in the short term, I think the net effect will be beneficial. He is a good, but not great player, and for the price we pay, he should be great. Better to get two good players (even if we have to wait till next year to get them) for what Peppers cost us.

I'm hoping your right... Although, I won't be mad if he stays, we will need him this year if only to give Brown 1 year to adapt to the NFL.

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As we get further and further into '09, I'm starting to feel the same way.

I feel we can move on without him. IMO if he dose not show for camp then he will be way behind everyone else and should be benched till he caches up. Teams dont have to have superstars to win just good players that work together well and I think Meeks will have that.

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