Football Gameplan's 2012 Wk 2 Panthers vs Saints* Preview

[FootballCzar]

Good morning Panthers fans! Good luck this week!

Em

[rayzor]

understandable and reasonable...but i wouldn't say that the bucs had success running against us last week. 3.6 ypa and 130 yards with no TDs isn't what i call success. they didn't really do anything well on offense. they won because the carolina offense couldn't get going and i don't know that the Saints* D will be able to do to the panthers what the bucs did. the Saints* just don't have the discipline needed on either side of the ball, really, with payton gone.

if it comes down to leadership, discipline, and focus, panthers are going to win. they are much more likely to be able to pull it together than the Saints*.

[FootballCzar]

understandable and reasonable...but i wouldn't say that the bucs had success running against us last week. 3.6 ypa and 130 yards with no TDs isn't what i call success. they didn't really do anything well on offense. they won because the carolina offense couldn't get going and i don't know that the Saints** D will be able to do to the panthers what the bucs did. the Saints** just don't have the discipline needed on either side of the ball, really, with payton gone.

if it comes down to leadership, discipline, and focus, panthers are going to win. they are much more likely to be able to pull it together than the Saints**.

The Bucs running allowed them to control the clock..and that's essentially what you look for when you run the ball.

I don't trust the Saints* defense at all.. this could end up being a shoot out in all honesty. They are allergic to stopping the run

[Udogg]

ROFL.. I see people aren't lined up this week to tell you how much you don't know. Good analysis btw.

[rayzor]

The Bucs running allowed them to control the clock..and that's essentially what you look for when you run the ball.

I don't trust the Saints*** defense at all.. this could end up being a shoot out in all honesty. They are allergic to stopping the run

their defense and the fact that the panthers couldn't stay on the field had more to do with that. all they did with the ball is not drop it.

agreed about the Saints** D, tho. very well could be a shoot out...unless the panthers D from last week shows up. i think they can handle what the Saints** showed on the field last sunday. the panthers problems with their offense is easier fixed than the Saints* problems on defense.

[Panthers4lyfe]

i see us winning this ball game 31-24.. it's gonna be a very good game. an intense game. a loud stadium. i can't wait for sunday. i can't wait to be there

[Delhommey]

So he says TE's are equal and nobody's up in arms?

[rayzor]

So he says TE's are equal and nobody's up in arms?

i think you're looking for saintsreport. lol

[Jackofalltrades]

30-17 Panthers.

[FootballCzar]

So he says TE's are equal and nobody's up in arms?

Equal in the sense that there isn't a liability there.. That's how I rank the positions by identifying the liabilities.. Which is why last week everyone was up in arms about being equal at QB with the Bucs.. Wasn't saying Freeman is better than Cam, just pointing out the Bucs didn't have Chris Chandler at QB

[Greg Schiano]

I'm Greg Schiano and I listened to FootballCzar. Talked about how we had to take away the run in week 1 to win. So that's what we did. He said keep the ball in Newton's hands and force him to throw the ball down the field.

He did pick Carolina to win though. Unfortunate.

[Doughboy88]

The one thing that scares me- Jimmy Graham. How do we game plan for him? Keek + big nickel help? I wouldn't mind seeing Martin, Haruki, and Godfrey lined up on a few plays. Graham is really the X-factor here. Fortunately for us, Brees is not gelling 100% yet with this WR core yet. I heard chico the other day on sirius nfl radio, and he was talking about gearing up for the Saints*. Pat Kirwan mentioned a previous game a couple years back of a team coming out of the gates slow (with high expectations), and then captured the second win against a good team (can't remember who). Rivera said he remembers watching that game- "that game gives us hope." Kirwan and Tim Ryan were caught off guard big time. What head coach needs HOPE to win the second game of the season. I love Rivera so far, but that scared me! Can't wait til Sunday.

[panther4life]

Equal in the sense that there isn't a liability there.. That's how I rank the positions by identifying the liabilities.. Which is why last week everyone was up in arms about being equal at QB with the Bucs.. Wasn't saying Freeman is better than Cam, just pointing out the Bucs didn't have Chris Chandler at QB

Theres more of a liability on our defense to contain Graham than their is for them to contain Olsen.

Also, Receivers I actually think we have them beat

Smith, Lafell,Muprhy> Colston, Moore, Henderson.

People seem to forget that Murphy was the #1 in Oakland until he got hurt/started bitching about them benching Jason Campbell losing his job to Palmer.

Murphy's good receiver and has proven such so far with us. Lafell is super clutch and really starting to come into his own now that he's got a QB and grasp the playbook. Then of course Steve Smith is Steve Smith.

Our top 3 "WR'S" just based off one week caught 61% of the passes thrown at them for 234 yards and only 1 drop over 21 targets.

Their top 3 "WR'S" week one only caught 50% of the passes thrown at them for 202 yards and had 3 drops over 22 targets.

You also mentioned Gamble and Colston being a good matchup to watch, which I agree with but it seems to me N.O likes to put him in the slot a lot and Gamble stays on the outside every down, so I don't know how much we will those 2 face off. If and when they do, I have full confidence in Gamble containing him at the very least.

All that being said it will be very interesting to see what happens this week, as the biggest similarity in each of our losses last week was be both got dominated on the time of possesion. Washington had the ball just under 19 minutes longer than the Saints* and the Bucs held onto it almost a full 15 minutes longer than us. On top of that we both lost the turnover battle 0-2 in favor of our opponents. And the final similar aspect which you did mention was how we both abadoned the run game quickly,they only gave their backs 10 carries, and us 7.

[4Corners]

Florio says on PFT - Saints* 42 Panthers 24