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Why Cam Newton could not solve Tampa Bay's defense

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coralreefer_1 Newbie

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I cant help but wonder...when is exactly a good time to abandon the run? I mean, many are saying we did so, and it hurt us. But seriously how efficient were we running?

Let me refresh some memories: -1 yards in the first half!!

10 yards for the entire game!!

Is it any wonder that we went with a more pass heavy second half considering how the first half went? Where are folks getting the idea that with -1 yards in the first half, it would have been a good idea to continue to try to run the ball? That's like looking at a stock that has steadily been declining in value for months, and saying to yourself.."yeah, I should by that stock because it is a winner"

How about we just admit to ourselves that we were beat by a better team on that day. Are they a better team overall? Personally I dont think so, but on Sunday, they were the better team in nearly every aspect of the game. Rather than try to find something that we did wrong (abandon the run, last years play calls..etc) isnt it more realistic to say that they were just better on that given Sunday?

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Eliminate one facet of the offense and a defense can concentrate on limiting the other... Look how Aaron Rodgers looked against the Niners without a running game. Same deal.

True----But shouldn't it have worked the same for us by eliminating one facet of theirs? I say the whole game boiled down to the Buc's OL and DL flat putting a whipping on ours.

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Wow, you know why Chud and newton kept going deep? Because Tampa Bay took away the short passes, screens and the run game. They played around the LoS for much of the game and the second Cam left the pocket they'd smash the rb to take away the pass. So the long ball was there all day, if anything we should've went deep more often.

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Cam made some bad reads and left some big plays on the table. Nobody is trying to put all the blame on him, but we will only go as far as he takes us. Poor performance on the oline cant be the excuse every year. He is going to be fine, we're going to be fine. We just need to make it through this brutal stretch of games with some Ws.

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Cam made some bad reads and left some big plays on the table. Nobody is trying to put all the blame on him, but we will only go as far as he takes us. Poor performance on the oline cant be the excuse every year. He is going to be fine, we're going to be fine. We just need to make it through this brutal stretch of games with some Ws.

That is why we didn't win more games....that is pretty much how Chud is running this offense. Put the world on Newton's shoulders and see what he can do. He can put up big numbers. He quietly put 300+ yards when nothing was working. Chud isn't calling good games to win IMO. Only called a handful of good ones last year....he shows off Newton too much.

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The hallmark of this coaching staff does not seem to be wizardry with in-game adjustments.

Remember Rivera's sad quote: “And all of a sudden they show up and do some different things that you didn’t have a chance to prepare for.”

Good luck finding a similar quote from Bellichick or one of the Harbaugh boys.

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Wow, you know why Chud and newton kept going deep? Because Tampa Bay took away the short passes, screens and the run game. They played around the LoS for much of the game and the second Cam left the pocket they'd smash the rb to take away the pass. So the long ball was there all day, if anything we should've went deep more often.

what is this? Simple observations from the game?

Say it isn't so!

After all it was coaches Rivera and Chud that game planned it to go just the way it did!

Lol

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Wow, you know why Chud and newton kept going deep? Because Tampa Bay took away the short passes, screens and the run game. They played around the LoS for much of the game and the second Cam left the pocket they'd smash the rb to take away the pass. So the long ball was there all day, if anything we should've went deep more often.

I'm glad you weren't the coach. Panthers would have won 72-0

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Personally, I think the Olins should take most responsibility. Don't blame Cam he did enough to win, despite it not being his best preformnance...his INTs came late, playing catch up not that it should be an excuse. Emphasis is a nonexistent oline in the first half that basically stopped the run game. Can't blame RBs either. They didn't miss holes because the holes were not there. The Oline came together too late and it was very short lived. Their inconsistant play probably made Cam look confused. Ye he made mistakes too but he is only in his second year and the Oline needs to remember that, they still need put most their effort into protecting him. I don't think anyone expected to try and play catch up to 16 points so that just fuged everything up.

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Why was the run game pathetic? Why did the o-line look so bad? Ever ask yourselves these questions?

Go back and look at our offensive formations for the majority of the plays last year. I'll save you the time...simply stated, we typically left more people in to block and sent fewer out in pass patterns than we did Sunday.

We didn't run effectively and the o-line looked like crap because of the offense we called. It may work against other teams, but it didn't against the Bucs and Chud didn't make enough adjustments as the game went on.

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