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Game Grades: Giants at Panthers


Zod

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Cam really doesn't deserve too much of the blame. His line wasn't there for him and his receivers weren't getting seperation. Coming from behind trying to create magic, you might throw a couple picks. No big deal. If the rest of the team gave as much as Cam gives, they'd be 3-0 at the moment.

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One problem I saw with the defense is that we were giving their receivers a 10-yard cushion on almost every passing play. I don't remember us trying to jam their guys at the line even once. When all you do is play zone like that, it's easy for the opponent's receivers to just find the holes in the zone.

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Regarding Cam, I agree the oline didn't play well. But that doesn't excuse the way our QB played. I could understand if the int's and tipped passes came as Cam was getting hit. But Cam made his biggest mistakes when he did get some time to throw. The woefully underthrown pass followed by the interception at the end of the first half were all on Cam. Plenty of qb's go thru games in which they get hit a lot, but the good ones shake it off and make some plays when they do get good protection. Cam didn't do that last night.

Fwiw, Eli Manning struggled and was inconsistent his first 2-3 years. It took him a while to learn how to be a great QB. Hopefully Cam will learn from his mistakes and eventually the Qb most of us think he can be.

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I might give the offense a D just because I think we did move the ball OK against a defense that is built to protect leads and knew Cam had to come out slinging for us to have a chance. The above poster is right in that some of Cam's bad decisions weren't when he was under pressure, but he was under pressure so often (because the D-line was just pinning their ears back) that it definitely shook him a bit. That's something that will hopefully get better with experience, but even Tom Brady isn't himself when he plays the giants. Also, I blame Chud for not giving Cam a hand and throwing in some more screen passes/quick drops rather than sticking to slower read-option poo the whole game.

Had the defense not been a complete and utter catastrophe, I actually think our offense would have done pretty well against the Giants.

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