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Voth: Rivera is Staying

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Newtons2ndLaw Rookie

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With two years of HC experience, I think Rivera will lead us to a winning record next year. Is there a cut off point of Rivera haters whether he stays or goes?

But when has experience EVER made a HC successful? Look at Romeo Crennel, Mangini, Nolan, Singletary, etc. HC unlike players don't get better with experience. The good ones win out the gate, or maximum after their first season.

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Can anyone name any new HCs that were not successful their first 2 seasons and turned it around? I just don't understand. In this day and age, only veteran HCs should get this level of commitment to right the ship, given their experience. These days rookie coaches are stepping up and winning out the gate, so why settle for less and more of the same that hasn't worked in the last 12 years? This has fail written all over it.

Jimmy Johnson

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/JohnJi0.htm

Bill Walsh

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Tom Landry

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But I think there’s at least a decent chance interim general manager Brandon Beane could become the permanent general manager, but that may come with some restructuring of the personnel department. The Panthers already have pro personnel director Mark Koncz, college scouting director Don Gregory and salary-cap manager Rob Rogers already in place and all are competent. But fans may not be very happy if the Panthers simply elevate Beane and stick with what they’ve got. I can see a situation in which Beane is promoted, but someone with a strong personnel background is brought in to oversee the personnel department.

However the Panthers structure things, they have to win in 2013 because Richardson isn't going to be patient any longer.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/43872/ron-rivera-enters-2013-on-hot-seat

Enter Mr. Gettleman as the personnel director.............

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http://blogs.charlotte.com/tom_talks/2013/01/retaining-rivera-good-move-by-the-wrong-man.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

How does one know that the actual candidates haven't already been asked about Rivera? I love so many people want to speculate what happened. Why waste so much energy on things we have no clue about?

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But when has experience EVER made a HC successful? Look at Romeo Crennel, Mangini, Nolan, Singletary, etc. HC unlike players don't get better with experience. The good ones win out the gate, or maximum after their first season.

i've known lots of experienced failures.

i think it can take more time with some, but i haven't seen that in rivera. i see only a guy who can win when desperate to keep his job and who's players will only step it up when that job is in jeopardy.

not sure how much i like that.

but to your point, experience does not always equal growth. prisons are full of people with tons of experience.

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Most coaches aren't good their first couple years of coaching

Want me to run a comparison of how many turned it around after being horrible for 2 years versus how many just weren't good coaches?

Hint: One is much greater than the other

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