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Keenan Allen Pro Day Tommorow.

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Hey, if the "poor man's version" has a lot better production, then give me the poor man's version. I just think Hopkins is the best all around WR in the draft. Good measurables, good route running, great hands, great production, and he's clutch. That's what I want in a WR.

Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.

None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.

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Here y'all go, Keenan is almost the pick as of right now.

Has anybody thought about the idea that Rivera went to Cal and we are looking at receivers anyway? Maybe this was a good opportunity to visit with his alma mater while on the job. Two birds, one stone. Keenan Allen is far from a sure thing as our pick right now.

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Also just LOL.

I initially heard somewhere a while back that Zach Maynard was supposed to be throwing for Allen today.

Instead, Allen decides to have Ricky Proehl, yes, our Ricky Proehl throw for him instead.

What does this say about you as a QB when your brother feels his future is better staked with a middle aged ex receiver throwing the ball over you?

Maynard has to be the worst starting QB in college football. The guy was awful.

Well Proehl do owns Proehlific Park

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Has anybody thought about the idea that Rivera went to Cal and we are looking at receivers anyway? Maybe this was a good opportunity to visit with his alma mater while on the job. Two birds, one stone. Keenan Allen is far from a sure thing as our pick right now.

No. That's a stupid excuse.

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Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.

None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.

I think Allen's hands are a lot better then some are giving him credit for, but I'm not sure they're better than Vernon's, Swope's, or Woods'.....

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Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.

None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.

LOL

Dude, you're biased as hell. I'm admittedly biased toward Hopkins - he's the guy I want. But to act like what you've stated is factual while dismissing anything to the contrary doesn't make you seem very intelligent. Your opinion does not equal fact. Other than black and white measurements, workout numbers and stats, there are no facts in scouting. It's all opinion.

Boyd ain't gonna be a 1st rounder.

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It's threads like these that reveal which people actually know what they're looking at when they watch "tape" and those who watch them looking for highlight reel plays.

Some arguments people are making can't even be quanitifed as "opinions" because they're so blatantly opposite from the truth. It would be like someone arguing that Cam doesn't have a strong arm. Sure, you can have that opinion, but I'm not going to respect it because it's so blatantly ridiculous.

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It's threads like these that reveal which people actually know what they're looking at when they watch "tape" and those who watch them looking for highlight reel plays.

Some arguments people are making can't even be quanitifed as "opinions" because they're so blatantly opposite from the truth. It would be like someone arguing that Cam doesn't have a strong arm. Sure, you can have that opinion, but I'm not going to respect it because it's so blatantly ridiculous.

You just get mad when someone's not all over "your" guy. If we take Allen, I hope he's great, but to act like his 40 time isn't at least a little concerning is just having your head in the sand.

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Has anybody thought about the idea that Rivera went to Cal and we are looking at receivers anyway? Maybe this was a good opportunity to visit with his alma mater while on the job. Two birds, one stone. Keenan Allen is far from a sure thing as our pick right now.

Except that it was in Greensboro...

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LOL

Dude, you're biased as hell. I'm admittedly biased toward Hopkins - he's the guy I want. But to act like what you've stated is factual while dismissing anything to the contrary doesn't make you seem very intelligent. Your opinion does not equal fact. Other than black and white measurements, workout numbers and stats, there are no facts in scouting. It's all opinion.

Boyd ain't gonna be a 1st rounder.

This entire post is exactly what I'm talking about. I also find it comical to see you back out of your inital argument with the classic"well, that's just like your opinion, bro!"

You made an argument, I showed your argument was rooted in truths that didn't exist. There's no "conflicting opinions" about that. That's you being wrong.

lol at Tahj Boyd not being projected as a first rounder. thats you also being wrong.

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Allen is bigger. Allen is the unquestioned best route runner in the draft. Allen has the best hands in the draft and his catch radius is just amazing. To compare the production of the two is lunatical. In addition to the fact Allen missed a chunk of the season, he also was forced to play with Jimmy Maynard rather than future first rounder Tahj Boyd in an incredibly effective pass offense.

None of those arguments serve your overall point because they're either inaccurate, or so blatantly taken out of the overall context that it's somewhat humorous.

These two points are just flat out untrue. Deandre Hopkins and Quinton Patton are highly touted for their routes. Stedman Bailey (though he dropped one or two at the pro day) and Markus Wheaton are being looked at as guys with the best hands in the draft.

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