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Matthias

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I love me some Keeks, but he made a dumb play against Gronk.  Not only should he have been penalized, it would have been better for him and the team in the long run to been penalized.  Why do I say that?  This is not the first time I seen Kuechly mug a good tight end in the endzone.  What I saw last night was almost a mirror image of what he did to Gonzalez when we played the Falcons.  Someone said that Kuechly made a similar play against the Bills, but I can't confirm that and yet I also wouldn't doubt it.  It's clear now that this style of play is instinctual, and that is not good for us in the long run.

 

 

Kuechly should have been penalized, and that would have taught him to stop that kind of play.  For one, it wasn't even necessary.  We all know Brady has to throw the ball in the endzone, and we all calculated that Gronk was Brady's go-to-guy.  You drop seven guys in coverage, meaning you aren't the only one to defend the pass.  Why are you wrapping up and bear hugging the guy, not even a hint of attempt at actually playing the ball?  That drives me crazy because Kuechly was actually in better position to intercept the pass himself had he played the ball.  Why am I so mad that the refs picked the flag up?  For one, it does in a way cheapen the game overall.  I know the Patriots had a lot of dirty plays and they might have deserved for the refs to look the other way on that last play, but I want my team to play honorably regardless.  I want to win without any excuse from the other side.  That we were the best team last night through and through.  Them picking up the flag kind of cheapened that for me.  Secondly, Kuechly will now move on without changing his thought on how to cover a good tight end in the endzone.  Eventually that play will catch up.  I much rather would have been penalized last night and dealt with the consequences (one of them being Kuechly learn from this and begin playing the ball), than Kuechly doing something like this in the playoffs and it ends up costing us the game then.

 

 

How many of you believe Rivera got on Kuechly for that play last night?  How many of you believe Kuechly is mentally checking himself right now and correct himself?  Maybe those two things happened, I don't know.  Yet I'm not as confident those two things happened now, because Kuechly wasn't penalized.  Had he been penalized, those two things would have gotten done and trust me, they need to get done.

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Wrong. Rulebook says right call was made. Try again.

 

What if this was the other way around?  What if Cam was throwing to Olsen, and he was wrapped up?  How would you feel then?  Yet even if you believed the right call was made, what if Brady threw it in the range of Gronk?  Kuechly still bear hugged him without even attempting to play the ball. (Which would have drawn a sure flag)  Kuechly messed up point blank.  Yet as I said before, I wouldn't even make a thread like this if this was an isolated incident.  Kuechly is becoming known for this kind of coverage against good tight ends.  This will bite us in the butt eventually.

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Not sure Keek actually clutched him as much as a faceguarding type move.  His arms were not hugging him per se until he was falling at the whistle.  If Brady had not floated the ball but thrown a bullet, it would have been a different story.

 

We'll just call it the "Carolina Tuck Rule"

 

Understand the feelings both ways but it IS kinda fun to be on the good end of a controversial call for once.

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What if this was the other way around?  What if Cam was throwing to Olsen, and he was wrapped up?  How would you feel then?  Yet even if you believed the right call was made, what if Brady threw it in the range of Gronk?  Kuechly still bear hugged him without even attempting to play the ball. (Which would have drawn a sure flag)  Kuechly messed up point blank.  Yet as I said before, I wouldn't even make a thread like this if this was an isolated incident.  Kuechly is becoming known for this kind of coverage against good tight ends.  This will bite us in the butt eventually.

 

 

I agree with you but good luck getting people to see it that way.  As long as it didn't happen against the Panthers most people don't care.  I hope Luke learned from it and will adjust his playing so he isn't in that situation again.

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Good play by Keek. Playing his man. They usually allow a little more physicality on last second plays, but Gronk was no where near the ball. I didn't even realize he was the one Brady was throwing to.

Gronk never made a play on the ball so Keek was face guarding him and was going to react to what Gronk did.

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I love me some Keeks, but he made a dumb play against Gronk.  Not only should he have been penalized, it would have been better for him and the team in the long run to been penalized.  Why do I say that?  This is not the first time I seen Kuechly mug a good tight end in the endzone.  What I saw last night was almost a mirror image of what he did to Gonzalez when we played the Falcons.  Someone said that Kuechly made a similar play against the Bills, but I can't confirm that and yet I also wouldn't doubt it.  It's clear now that this style of play is instinctual, and that is not good for us in the long run.

 

 

Kuechly should have been penalized, and that would have taught him to stop that kind of play.  For one, it wasn't even necessary.  We all know Brady has to throw the ball in the endzone, and we all calculated that Gronk was Brady's go-to-guy.  You drop seven guys in coverage, meaning you aren't the only one to defend the pass.  Why are you wrapping up and bear hugging the guy, not even a hint of attempt at actually playing the ball?  That drives me crazy because Kuechly was actually in better position to intercept the pass himself had he played the ball.  Why am I so mad that the refs picked the flag up?  For one, it does in a way cheapen the game overall.  I know the Patriots had a lot of dirty plays and they might have deserved for the refs to look the other way on that last play, but I want my team to play honorably regardless.  I want to win without any excuse from the other side.  That we were the best team last night through and through.  Them picking up the flag kind of cheapened that for me.  Secondly, Kuechly will now move on without changing his thought on how to cover a good tight end in the endzone.  Eventually that play will catch up.  I much rather would have been penalized last night and dealt with the consequences (one of them being Kuechly learn from this and begin playing the ball), than Kuechly doing something like this in the playoffs and it ends up costing us the game then.

 

 

How many of you believe Rivera got on Kuechly for that play last night?  How many of you believe Kuechly is mentally checking himself right now and correct himself?  Maybe those two things happened, I don't know.  Yet I'm not as confident those two things happened now, because Kuechly wasn't penalized.  Had he been penalized, those two things would have gotten done and trust me, they need to get done.

Enjoy the win .. think the refs were in position to make what they thought was the right call.Why are you not bitching about the leg whip on Johnson or Talib grabbing Smittys face mask?

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I love me some Keeks, but he made a dumb play against Gronk.  Not only should he have been penalized, it would have been better for him and the team in the long run to been penalized.  Why do I say that?  This is not the first time I seen Kuechly mug a good tight end in the endzone.  What I saw last night was almost a mirror image of what he did to Gonzalez when we played the Falcons.  Someone said that Kuechly made a similar play against the Bills, but I can't confirm that and yet I also wouldn't doubt it.  It's clear now that this style of play is instinctual, and that is not good for us in the long run.

 

 

Kuechly should have been penalized, and that would have taught him to stop that kind of play.  For one, it wasn't even necessary.  We all know Brady has to throw the ball in the endzone, and we all calculated that Gronk was Brady's go-to-guy.  You drop seven guys in coverage, meaning you aren't the only one to defend the pass.  Why are you wrapping up and bear hugging the guy, not even a hint of attempt at actually playing the ball?  That drives me crazy because Kuechly was actually in better position to intercept the pass himself had he played the ball.  Why am I so mad that the refs picked the flag up?  For one, it does in a way cheapen the game overall.  I know the Patriots had a lot of dirty plays and they might have deserved for the refs to look the other way on that last play, but I want my team to play honorably regardless.  I want to win without any excuse from the other side.  That we were the best team last night through and through.  Them picking up the flag kind of cheapened that for me.  Secondly, Kuechly will now move on without changing his thought on how to cover a good tight end in the endzone.  Eventually that play will catch up.  I much rather would have been penalized last night and dealt with the consequences (one of them being Kuechly learn from this and begin playing the ball), than Kuechly doing something like this in the playoffs and it ends up costing us the game then.

 

 

How many of you believe Rivera got on Kuechly for that play last night?  How many of you believe Kuechly is mentally checking himself right now and correct himself?  Maybe those two things happened, I don't know.  Yet I'm not as confident those two things happened now, because Kuechly wasn't penalized.  Had he been penalized, those two things would have gotten done and trust me, they need to get done.

 

First off, whatever bear hug you saw happen outside of the goal line. Grun overan his play and Kuechly was right with him. You could see from the tape that Kuechly and Grunt so called hug happened outside of the endzone and the ball was like 6 feet infront of him.

 

Answer me this question, do you think if Cam was on the other side of the throw instead of Brady the media would have been carrying on the way they are? If you answer is NO, then there is no controversy. We cannot keep living and judging every outcome of a game based on the mindset and attitudes of those who believe they are the gate-keepers to the NFL.

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